Sidonia Hulme

[Susan Kitchen]

I'm searching for some details for a Sidonia Hulme. Her parents were Jane and Charles Hulme. Sidonia, which on 1871 census is Sidona was born about 1862 in Moxley Staffordshire. I've found she had an illegitimate daughter Edith about 1882. Between 1882 and 1891 Sidonia married Charles Johnson from Burslam. Sidonia turns up again on the 1901 census, this time her name is put as Donah. I cannot find Sidonia's birth record or her marriage to Charles Johnson. Also a Sidona Hulme turns up in the marriage records for 1911.
Can anyone make sense of this, please.
Thanks
Susan.

[Raffaele]

I assume this is the marriage you refer to

Marriages Dec 1911
Dunn William Wolstanton 6b 234
Hill Frederick Wolstanton 6b 234
Hulme Sadona Wolstanton 6b 234
THOMPSON Ellen Wolstanton 6b 234

The district is Wolstanton and Burslem

What age was Charles on the census in 1891, there is a death in Wolstanton in 1908 of a Charles age 75.
Where was Edith born. Do you have the birth certificate or is this just from Census data.

If you can post a bit more detail and the source of the information it will help us to help you.

[Dargie]

I think this is your marriage

March Q 1884 Wolstanton
LEDONIA HULMES
SEDONIA HULMES
Charles Johnson
6b 169

Marj.

[Dargie]

As Sedonia was 11 in the 1871 census and the next child was 7 is it posible that Sedonia was born before the marriage and registered with Jane's maiden name? Just a thought as I have tried all kinds of variations on the name with no luck
Do you have marriage certidicate for Charles and Jane?

[Raffaele]

This looks like her family in 1881

Charles HOLMES, Head,44, Meir Heath, Stafford, Collier
Jane HOLMES,Wife,43, Bilston, Stafford
Thomas HOLMES,Son,17, Bilston, Stafford, Potter
Mary Jane HOLMES, Dau,15, Bilston, Stafford, Potter
Joseph HOLMES, Son, 11, Tunstall, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe HOLMES, Dau, 9, Tunstall, Stafford, Scholar
Alice HOLMES, Dau, 7, Tunstall, Stafford, Scholar
Solomon HOLMES, Son ,5, Tunstall, Stafford, Scholar
Annie HOLMES, Dau,3, Tunstall, Stafford

10 Duke St, Wolstanton, Stafford
RG11 / 2709 / 141 / 17

[Raffaele]

This could be the parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1843
Brewer Jane St. Austel. 20 25
Brooks Jane Ashton under Lyne 20 25
Holden Jane Ashton &c. 20 25
HULME Charles Ashton L 20 25
Mellor Alice Ashton under Lyne 20 25
Moss Abel Ashton 20 25
Shaw John Ashton &c 20 25
Wardle Mary Ashton 20 25
Warrall Attwell Ashton 20 25

Sidonia could well have been in service and the entry was mistranscribed. Not uncommon for such girls to end up with illegitimate children. Their eldest son Thomas was born Bilston. Google maps have Bilston and Moxley 3000 feet apart.

[georgiep]

Hi
1891 census 9 Challinor Bldgs Tunstall
Edith Hulme 9 yrs step daughter bn Tunstall
Charles Johnson 29 bn Burslem stationary engine driver, Sidonia 29 bn Moxley Staffs
Ernest 2 & Sarah A 9mnths both bn Tunstall/Wolstanston Staffs.

[Raffaele]

This could be her as there are not that many Sidonia's around

Births Jun 1861
Hobbins Sidonia Wolverhampton 6b 537

[Susan Kitchen]

I assume this is the marriage you refer to

Marriages Dec 1911
Dunn William Wolstanton 6b 234
Hill Frederick Wolstanton 6b 234
Hulme Sadona Wolstanton 6b 234
THOMPSON Ellen Wolstanton 6b 234

The district is Wolstanton and Burslem

What age was Charles on the census in 1891, there is a death in Wolstanton in 1908 of a Charles age 75.
Where was Edith born. Do you have the birth certificate or is this just from Census data.

If you can post a bit more detail and the source of the information it will help us to help you.

Thanks for your reply. I don't have a certificate only census data and what someone else has said. I know her father was a coal miner.And other than the information i've given i don't have anymore. But i appreciate your help.
Susan

[Susan Kitchen]

As Sedonia was 11 in the 1871 census and the next child was 7 is it posible that Sedonia was born before the marriage and registered with Jane's maiden name? Just a thought as I have tried all kinds of variations on the name with no luck
Do you have marriage certidicate for Charles and Jane?

Thanks for finding the marriage Marj. Think that's the one. I don't have a certificate for Charles and Jane. It may be that Sedonia wasn't registered. My Grandmother wasn't and she was born in 1883. Her father moved around so much for his job they obviously didn't bother. Actually this isn't my family. I'm helping a friend out who can't use her computer at the moment.
Susan.