Ages of the Ladies in Photo

[Desperate Dan]

I hesitate to suggest things to my illustrious colleagues on BritGen, who probably know all about it anyway....but in case this may be new to somebody, as it was to me, this link gives clues on dating old photos.. I just wish that I had some of my family..

www.
cartes.freeuk.com/time/date.htm

[Aussie Shep]

My dad's 1st cousin gave us the photo and she seemed quite positive that they were not nurses but Alice did later on in her life deliver babies. On the back of the photo there is a note addressed to a mother saying Alice is a farmer's daughter, so either she misled him or he didn't want his mother to know that she was a farm labourers daughter. Alice went onto marry George Capewell in 1896 and had (4) children with him. She had a daughter out of wedlock before she met George, my Gt Grandmother Phoebe (father unknown). On the census returns the occupation for Alice is always left blank, her mother Mary seated next to her is listed as a Charmwoman. It would be so nice to have some nurses in the family they are all Ag Labourers from Stone Staffordshire. CHeers for your replies.

[jeeb]

Hi Aussie Shep,
From the information you have provided are you sure these are the people you think they are? The 1891 census lists Mary Deakin as a Charwoman, (not charmwoman) she is with daughter Alice and there is a 6 year old Grandaughter Phoebe with them. The two ladies in the photograph are reasonably well dressed and the younger woman certainly is wearing 'badges' that look like nursing profession.
The photograph does not look like that of a Charwoman and the mother of a young child from a farm labouring background where money would have been short.
The wording that 'Alice was a farmer's daughter' better describes these two ladies.

Jeremy

[Mutley]

Both women are wearing similar clothing with the badges as if it were a uniform of some sort.
Would there be any women's societies in Staffordshire in the 1880s, Temperance, Religious, Salvation Army type associations?

[Aussie Shep]

Oops I meant to say Charwoman (typo error on my part).
The Granddaughter Phoebe is my Great Grandmother; her mother is Alice but the father is unknown.
Alice married a George Capewell his occupation was Nurseryman Labourer and Mary (the grandmother raised Phoebe)
Alice’s father George Deakin born 1823 Uttoxeter Staffs in all the census returns is listed as a Farm Labourer. They lived in a cottage provided to them by the Farm owner. Alice died in 1945.
Is there any way I can find out if they were nurses?

[Scotbrummie]

Hello, just joined and had a look at this picture. I know you've probably solved this by now but here's my guess- I think this is an Edwardian era photograph. I think the younger woman is Phoebe and I think her medals may be those awarded to suffragettes. I'm not sure whether the older woman is her mother Alice or her grandmother Mary. The older woman, dependent on her lifestyle could be a young looking 60 or and old looking 40.
Moira