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    If your Gertrude's grandfather is the same William as my Murdoch, then I have further information which may be of interest about William's brothers, Alexander and John (my Great Grandfather x 3)

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    Thanks for this - yes, it does seem they are all related as you say. This info would be very interesting. Your original post has led to me finding missing pieces of my family jigsaw that I have been trying to pin down for several years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somersheen View Post
    But the saddest finding is an Annie (rather than Anna) Gertrude McLeod as an inmate in Chelmsford Prison - stated as married with no occupation. However, it gives a different date of birth (1829 rather than 1835) but born in Ireland. No other people registered with a similar name that I can find, and I wonder how I could find out why she was in prison?
    There is an Annie Mcleod who was sentenced to 12 months for larceny in dwelling house, her trial started on the 27th February 1853 in Middlesex.

    I don't know if she is yours as there's no age given.

    There is also an Ann Mcleod who was sentenced to 7 years for larceny from the person after a previous conviction for felony, her trial started in Durham on 31st December 1877. It could be that she was transferred to Chelmsford Prison prior to 1881.

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    Let me have your email address and I will send you what I have, unless you have access to Genes Reunited where I can give you access to my tree and you can get the same info from there.

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    Alansdad

    I’m interested in your enquiries about William McLeod, dated 4 July 2010. He is a relative of mine, and features in a book I’ve published about my Scottish relatives. What you have is correct. Others have noted his 1841 census entry and that of his widow Ellen in 1851.

    As to his death details, the William who died in 1845 aged 83 can’t be him. The one who died in St George Southwark in 1847 was buried 10 Dec 1847 at St Marylebone (from the Old Kent Road), aged 67 could well be him. This birth date, c. 1780, matches well his age in the 1841 census (remember these were rounded down).

    I believe the 1861 census entry in Marylebone and the 1871 entry in Woodland Road Lambeth are for the same Ellen.

    Both Murdoch and John did have daughters called Gertrude: Gertrude Constance and Gertrude Fanny Victoria respectively.
    As you’ve noted, Murdoch son of William was bankrupted, just like his father, in 1872.

    I also have information about William’s brother Rev Alexander and John. Where do you fit into this tree? Their sister Kathrine McLeod was my g-g-grandmother.

    I’d be very interested in the letters you have between Ellen McLeod and Montstuart Elphinstone. I’d love to have a copy if you would like to share them: andrew[underscore]ontheroad[at]yahoo[dot]com.

    Thanks,
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    Andrew,

    Thanks for your contact, and I will of course send you a copy of the letter from Ellen to Mountstewart Elphinstone, and the letters between William and Mountstewart (unfortunately they are of poor quality and some of the writing I am unable to decipher.

    My link into the family is through John, he was my ggg grandfather married to Margaret and living at Balchladich, Stoer, Sutherland.

    Alansdad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutley View Post
    I've searched high and low for John and Anna (Gertrude also) in the 1891 census, without any luck.
    There is a death registration for John Lyons McLeod in West Ham in 1893. I presume he is your man.

    It would be very interesting to know who it was that registered his death.
    I have the death cert for John Lyons Macleod. Info from the cert as follows -
    John Lyons McLeod, died 25 October 1893, 136 Major Road Stratford, age 68, merchant seaman. Cause of death senile decay and bronchitis as certified. Informant Mary Reid, present at death, 136 Major Road Stratford. (death cert)

    Hope this is of some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinC View Post
    There is an Annie Mcleod who was sentenced to 12 months for larceny in dwelling house, her trial started on the 27th February 1853 in Middlesex.

    I don't know if she is yours as there's no age given.

    There is also an Ann Mcleod who was sentenced to 7 years for larceny from the person after a previous conviction for felony, her trial started in Durham on 31st December 1877. It could be that she was transferred to Chelmsford Prison prior to 1881.
    It is very likely that Anna Gertrude is the one from 1877. Her mother in law Ellen died October 1877, On the 1871 census they are shown as living with her.

    The one from 1853 doesnt fit since Anna was not married then. She was still surname Cole.

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    I think that after William was adjudged bankrupt in London in 1842 he headed back to India. This is most likely him:
    Arrival
    Month Nov Year 1843
    Name of Ship Hindostan
    Captain G.J. Redman
    Title or Rank Esq.
    First Name William
    Passenger Surname Macleod
    Regiment or Occupation Merchant
    Passenger Origin London
    Passenger Destination Calcutta
    Vessel Origin London
    Vessel Destination Calcutta
    Source Bengal Directory Edition 1844

    http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/....php?id=553426

    That this is our William is supported by this death two years later:

    Surname McLeod
    Given name(s) William
    Place Calcutta
    Year 1845 month Dec day 26
    Register Entry At Calcutta on the 26th Dec William McLeod Esq Merchant of London aged 53 years
    Edition Year 1846 Edition Date 7 Jan

    803 deaths extracted from the domestic occurrences mentioned in the 1846 'Bombay Times and Journal of Commerce' which was the pre-cursor for the Times of India
    http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/....php?id=917136

    He was buried in the Scottish cemetery in Calcutta:

    Name: William MACLEOD
    Event type: Burial
    Date: 26 Dec
    Year: 1845
    Location: Scot. Burial Ground, Calcutta
    Age: 53
    Status: merchant
    Will administration:
    Notes:
    Transcribed by: British Library
    India Office Records Reference: N/1/68 f.356
    Source name:
    Source year:
    Source edition:
    Presidency: Bengal
    http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/FullDisp...=014-000176362

    Hope this helps.

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