Samuel Marrall - Royal Horse Artillery

[padua]

Would anyone be able to help with information regards our grandfather Samuel Merrill (Could be Marrall )Samuel with the Royal Horse Artillery, with which he served in Sudan & Afghanistan, from 1879 to 1884. He was born in Warsop 1855 - I have received email from a Richard Myers but have been unsuccessful in re contacting him Married a Emma Thornton Any thing at all would be wonderful what uniform would he had worn medals etc

so far away and so little time

[AdeleE]

Hello padua,

To attract more attention from forum members, I have moved your post to a thread of its own, rather than leaving it as a reply on another thread.

[notanotherminer]

Before going any further I thought it best to clarify the spelling of Samuel's last name. Both his birth and marriage registrations show him as Samuel Marrall

Birth
Marrall, Samuel Mar qtr 1855 vol. 7b page 27

Marriage
Marrall, Samuel Sep qtr 1898 Sheffield 9c page 812
Emma Thornton on same page

[notanotherminer]

Sorry Padua - that's Worksop for his birth reg. district

[AdeleE]

Before going any further I thought it best to clarify the spelling of Samuel's last name. Both his birth and marriage registrations show him as Samuel Marrall

In creating the new thread for padua, I provided the title. I'll change the spelling of his name on the thread title to the documented spelling.

[notanotherminer]

By the time of the 1911 census Emma is widowed. She was living at 3 Court, 3 Bramall Lane, Sheffield.

She was a bir difficult to find as she has written Mrs Marrall on census form which was then just transcribed Marrall. However, her 4 eldest sons all bore the name Thornton so I'm pretty certain it's her.

Marrall widow 46 b. Sheffield
Thorntone (sic) Walter, son 22 spoon and fork engraver b' Sheffield
Thorntone Harry 19, Table knife cutler b. Beeston, Notts
Thorntone, John Arthur 166, Engineer Tool maker b.Beeston
Thorntone, Harold, 14 Engineer Tool Maker b. Beeston
Marrall, Evelyn daughter,22, butcher knife cutler
Marrall, Samuel 11
Marrall, Herbert, 10
Marrall, Emily 6
All Marrall children born Sheffield.
RG14 piece 27863 RD510 ED15 SN11 Crown copyright TNA

It looks like Emma was married before and looking at Evelyn's age maybe Samuel was too

[notanotherminer]

Here they are in 1901
2 Duke Lane Sheffield

Morrall Samuel 46 Brewery Barrel Washer b. Worksop
Morrall Emma 35
Thornton, William 14 Engraver (general silver)
Thornton Walter 12
Thiornton Harry 10
ThorntonJohn A 6
Thornton Harold 4
Morrall Samuel 1
Morrall Herbert 3 MOS

[notanotherminer]

I can't find a previous marriage for Samuel. I looked for him in 1891 to see if I could find him with daughter Evelyn and I found this rather curious census

RG11/3802/135/page 6

It shows William Marrall, 36 b.1855, occ. Watchman, described as married living in Eccleshall Bierlow Sheffield. There is no wife on the page, instead a woman described as mother-in-law is living with him along with a 37 year old widow named Clara T Spencer and 4 Spencer children.
Samuel is enumerated as born Sheffield but there was no other birth registered around 1855 for that name. It depends really on who provided the information but I'm sure it's him.
The other curiosity is the youngest Spencer child, Evelyn who was born 1889 in Sheffield the same as Evelyn Marrell in the 1911 census.

Could someone else offer their opinion please

[AdeleE]

I've looked on the 1881 census and found Clara Fanny Spencer, age 27, a married boarder, living in Sheffield, along with her son Samuel , 18 months old. (RG11 / Piece 4642 / Folio 71 / Page 18) census Crown copyright in care of TNA These two persons match the 1891 census, but then there should also be a daughter Amelia Spencer, who is listed on the 1891 as age 13.

In the preceding household is a 39 year old Edward Ibbotson with his family. This matches the surname of Samuel Marrall's mother in law on the 1891 census (84 year old widowed Charlotte Ibbotson).

I wonder if Charlotte Ibbotson is Samuel Marrall's step-mother?

[AdeleE]

Well, it's not getting any clearer. 4 year old Amelia Spencer is found on the 1881 census at (RG11 / Piece 4642 / Folio 39 / Page 31), a niece to Thomas Smith & wife Emma. Also in the household is Mary Ibbotson, 68 year old widowed mother-in-law.