Jane Sarah Quilter

[Mutley]

There are families of Quilters in Market Bosworth, Leics. There is also a Jane (age 9) and Anne Jackson (age 6), daughters of William and Jane Jackson in the 1861 census. These girls were born in Market Bosworth and William was a farmer, able to pay for education for his daughters. I cannot see her in 1871 she is not with the family.

I wonder if the Quilter / Jackson association goes back before 1837 and if Market Bosworth could be an area of Leics that may be worth investigating.
I still think you need a birth certificate of one of her children. It will tell you her maiden name and a previous married name if there is one.

[Nightryder]

Thank you everyone for all your help I know what a frustrating lot the Quilters are.
They seem to be centred around the St Margarets area but maybe Market Bosworth is where some of them have been hiding.
Jane Sarah is proving to be so elusive & as there is so much doubt about her im going to send for Reginalds birth cert, hopefully I will know for sure then, Il post the details as soon as It arrives.

[billseymour]

Hi

I have just joined the forum. Annie Louise Quilter Jackson was my Great Grandmother, my Grandmother being Rosamond Beatrice Richards Seymour Jackson before she married my Grandfather a William Seymour in 1904 . From what I can tell Annie Louise was born in c1860 in Kensington, London. No father is given on Rosamond’s birth certificate. Note that the Quilter name is in both Jane Lee’s and Anile Louise’s name

Annie Louise also brought up 2 of Jane Lee’s grandchildren: Eustace Cuthbert Webster, son of Irene Daintree Quilter Webster (formerly Lee) and Eric Gerald Cecil Caruthers Hughes, son of Beatrice Agnes Hughes (formerly Lee). I new both Eric and Eustace when I was a boy, they were “uncle” to me.

My family know very little of Annie Louise or who Rosamond’s father was but Seymour appears in her name which may be a clue. My working assumption is that Annie Louise Quilter Jackson and Jane Lee were sisters but have no proof.

So I am trying to trace Annie Louise birth, siblings and even her death. She was living in Ringwood in 1911 and still bringing up Eric and Eustace but there is no one living who knows what happened to her.

[billseymour]

Thank you everyone for all your help I know what a frustrating lot the Quilters are.
They seem to be centred around the St Margarets area but maybe Market Bosworth is where some of them have been hiding.
Jane Sarah is proving to be so elusive & as there is so much doubt about her im going to send for Reginalds birth cert, hopefully I will know for sure then, Il post the details as soon as It arrives.

If it helps I have a copy of Jane Sarah's daughter Irene Daisy's birth certificate. Details born 16 March 1877 Whitchurch in the County of Southampton, Father William Lee, Mother Jane Lee formerly Jackson, Occupation of father National School Master.

[drepbeck]

Hi

I too am a newcomer. I have been putting together lifelines of former doctors in Hindon, Wilts. One of them was James Ainsworth Wm. Webster. Further search led me to this forum. He did not marry Irene Daintry Quilter Lee until QE Dec 1900 which was after the birth of Eustace. This begs the question why he has the surname Webster. They had a son of their own William Joe Ward born in 1910 in Shoeburyness According to the summary page for his tree on Anc***ry they divorced in 1924. He was in practise in Hindon from c1922 to1924 and remarried in 1926. As he seems to have remarried in church he must have been the wronged partner in the divorce. I have no idea what happened to Wm Joe.

[Nightryder]

Hi Drepbeck I had just assumed that Eustace was the son of James Ainsworth & that James & Irene married after his birth but if he is not the son of James it might explain why by the 1901 census he is living with "Daisy Seymour" who is Annie Louise Jackson sister of Irenes mother Jane Lee nee Jackson,also living with her is Eric Hughes another of Jane Lees grandchildren both boys are still living with her in 1911 & she has become Louise Quilter Seymour, I have been told but havent confirmed that both boys mothers came to Australia leaving the boys behind,Irene must have returned to England at some stage as she died in Cuckfield Sussex in March qtr of 1968 age 90, I have spent months trying to unravel the story of Annie & Jane & although I have a lot more info now the more I find the more questions it raises.

[billseymour]

Hi Drepbeck
I have a copy of Eustace's birth certificate. The details are:

Eustace Cuthbert Webster

Born 25 Sep 1899, 70 Talbot Road, Paddington, London
Father: James Ainsworth William Webster; Occupation of Independent Means
Mother: Irene Daintree Quilter Webster (formerly Lee)
Registered 16 Nov 1899

For James:

Extract from the 1913 Medical Directory

WEBSTER, James Ainsworth William, Address Army Medical Service, Date Registered 30 Dec 1902, Qualifications Lic.Soc.Apoth.Lond 1902

Medical Card Record

Description: Medal card of Webster, James Ainsworth William
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Army Medical Corps Major

Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/21

Dept Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War
Piece Ward H - Wilson F
Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection

Hope all this helps

William

[drepbeck]

Hi Nightryder,
Thanks for your comments. I may be quite wrong but I have formed the impression that Irene was probably generous with her favours. In the 1920s divorce was still quite unusual and very much frowned upon. Adultery was probably the commonest cause so maybe she was having a bit on the side while he was away on duty elsewhere. If James had been the father of Eustace I would have expected him to have become part of the family but as he was elsewhe in 1901 obviously not.

[drepbeck]

Hi William,
Thanks for your reply. I have tried to follow up James after leaving the hindon but with little success. Like many army officers he had his bank account with Glyn, Mills & Co, Whitehall and he used this address in the Medical Register for the rest of his life. I assume that he must have had a pension from his time in the army. The Post Office Directory was more helpful. From about 1950 onward he was living at Polsue or Polsne Cottage, Ruan High Lines, Cornwall.The exchange was Veryan which is in the Roseland peninsula. I suspect that they may have eventually moved to Devon as both his death in 1960 and Enid's also in 1960 were registered in Honiton.

[Nightryder]

I apologise for taking so long to return to this thread & new information only brings up more questions, Il start with the Marriage by banns St Pancras Church Middlesex
20th sept 1847 Charles Henry Jackson,full age,batchelor,Upholsterer,father William Jackson occupation Baker
Sarah Quilter, full age,spinster,no occupation,father Henry Quilter occupation Dead(exactly as written), Charles signs his name clearly,Sarah signs her name but it is dreadfull.

Birth cert,17th Oct 1847 St Margarets Leicester,Sarah Jane,father Charles Henry Jackson Upholsterer mother Sarah Jackson formerly Quilter,Sarah is the informant but she does not sign her name,only makes her mark,Baptism St Mark old church Middlesex 18th May 1851,Annie,Parents Charles Henry & Sarah Jackson,Upholsterer. I cannot find the family anywhere in the 1851 census with or without Annie,cant find them in 1861 except for possibly Jane as a pupil teacher at the National infants school in Hornsey( she is a school mistress in later censuses) but this Jane gives her birth place as Carlton in Leics & there is another Jane Jackson born in Carlton in Leics in 1847 parents Thomas Jackson & Phillis Hinks Jackson,my Jane never specifies where in Leics she was born except for the 1871 census where both she & Husband William Lee's birth place is given as Manbury.
Jane Marries William Lee in Crickhowell in 1869 father Charles Henry Jackson Upholsterer he is not marked as deceased,one of the witnesses is Annie Jackson,Annie is with Jane in both the 1871 & 1881 censuses she goes on to use many different names mostly Daisy, Annie is a long story that needs her own thread.
I think I have the right sisters with the right parents but as I cant find them together as a family or find Charles Henry & Sarah on any census I cant be sure, Charles jackson is a common name the only thing I can go on is his occupation, Ive spent months trying to figure out this family & what happened to Charles Henry & Sarah,Can anyone see what I might have missed or suggest what I should do next.