ANDERSONS of Kings Lynn, Norfolk

[Nicolina]

FreeReg has:
James Anderson born 10th Nov 1845, christened 9th Dec 1845 at King's Lynn St. Nicholas, parents William a fisherman and Mary Ann of Chapel Street.

could this be him?

[Nicolina]

how certain are you that James married Sarah Haywood?
There is a marriage between James Anderson, brush maker aged 23 of Albert Street , son of William, a sailor, and Sarah Rallison, aged 24 of Albert Street, daughter of William. a labourer, at King's Lynn St Nicholas on 26th Aug 1869

[Keyboard86]

how certain are you that James married Sarah Haywood?
There is a marriage between James Anderson, brush maker aged 23 of Albert Street , son of William, a sailor, and Sarah Rallison, aged 24 of Albert Street, daughter of William. a labourer, at King's Lynn St Nicholas on 26th Aug 1869

Thanks for that Nicolina, I was having trouble finding a Haywood/Heyward, this is the 1911 to confirm (almost ) the years of marriage:-

1911 Census

James Anderson Head 65 occ Draper Porter
Sarah Wife 66 born Dunham Norfolk
James V Son 29 occ Coal Porter born Lynn Norfolk
Jessie E Daugh 24 occ Dressmaker born Lynn Norfolk

Residing at Keppel Street Kings Lynn Norfolk

The couple state that they had been married 43 years and had 10 children 8 living 2 died.

Census ref RG14PN11654 RG78PN643 RD236 SD2 ED5 SN84

Census ref courtesy of and copyright TNA

Keyboard86

[Keyboard86]

Hi again Sue how certain or uncertain are you of two facts ie that James born 1771 is a connection with William and James, and also that William born 1811 died in 1876?

My reasoning is this, their is another William born 1811 in Kings Lynn who is a Fisherman, but if this is the case then the 1851 post 4 by Notanotherminer will not be the correct William, this is the other one!

1841 Census

William Anderson 25 occ Fisherman
Mary 20
Sarah 7
William 4
Henry 2
Edward Wickham 20
Charlotte Wickham12

All born in County

Residing at North Street St Margaret North End Kings Lynn

Census ref HO107/786/35A/25

1851 Census

William Anderson Head 40 occ Fisherman
Mary Wife 32
Sarah Daugh 16
William Son 14 occ Twiner Spinner
Henry Son 10
John Son 8
Agnes Daugh 6
James Son 5
Charlotte Daugh 4
Elizabeth Daugh 1

All Born Lynn Norfolk

Residing at Chapel Street Saint Margarets Kings Lynn

Census Ref HO107/1829/114/15

1861 Census

Mary A Anderson Head WIDOW 41
Henry Son 21
James Son 15
Charlotte Daugh 14
Elizabeth Daugh 11
William Wickham Nephew 8
Sarah A Wickham Niece 5
Susannah Wickham Niece 2

Residing at Austin Street St Margaret Kings Lynn

Census Ref RG09/1255/47/15

All census refs courtesy of and copyright TNA

Keyboard86

[Nicolina]

so the marriage of James Anderson and Sarah Rallison is about right for the couple from the 1911 Census. So now we need to prove that they are the right couple.

[Sue1]

Thanks to all who have contributed to this Anderson query.

I will put a message on tomorrow with what I now have to date. Am having computer problems at the moment and tried to put a message on this am to no avail. Computer rage is subsiding but will leave my message until tomorrow!!!! I can say that Rallison does figure in the family as far as my research has shown.

Sue

[Nicolina]

here are a couple of birth registraions
Births Mar 1882
Anderson James Valentine King's L. 4b 363

Births Jun 1888
ANDERSON Ethel Jessie Kings L 4b 37_ (looks like page 379)

[Nicolina]

I decided to try tracing them backwards and made a couple of interesting discoveries.

1901
RG13/1890/46 Page 12
16, Keppel Street, South Lynn

James ANDERSON aged 55 b. Kings Lynn occ: Night Watchman
Sarah ANDERSON aged 56 b. Kings Lynn
James ANDERSON aged 19 1882 b. Kings Lynn occ: General Labourer
Jessie ANDERSON aged 12 b. Kings Lyn

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1891
RG12/1570/71 Page 16
15, Victoria Street, South Lynn

James ANDERSON, aged 46 b. Kings Lynn occ: Brushmaker
Sarah ANDERSON, aged 47 b. Sporle
Sarah E ANDERSON, aged 11 b. Kings Lynn
James V ANDERSON, aged 8 b. Kings Lynn
Florence A ANDERSON, aged 6 b. Kings Lynn
Ethel J ANDERSON, aged 2 1889 b. Kings Lynn
Charlotte ANDERSON, aged 44 b. Kings Lynn occ: Domestic Servant Housemaid (unmarried sister)
Mary Ann HEALS, aged 40 b. Kings Lynn (married Sister In Law, in law crossed out) mistranscribed

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1881
RG11/2001/11 Page 18
15, Victoria St, South Lynn All Saints

ANDERSON, James ANDERSON aged 35 b. Kings Lynn occ: Brushmaker (Unemployed)
ANDERSON, Sarah ANDERSON aged 36 b. Sporle
ANDERSON, Mary A E ANDERSON aged 11 b. Kings Lynn
ANDERSON, Rose M ANDERSON aged 8 b. Kings Lynn
ANDERSON, Agnes L ANDERSON aged 7 b. Kings Lynn
ANDERSON, Charlotte ANDERSON aged 5 b. Kings Lynn
ANDERSON, Sarah E ANDERSON aged 1 b. Kings Lynn

and living a few doors away:

RG11/2001/10 Page 16
5, Victoria St, South Lynn All Saints

William NEAL aged 30 b. Kings Lynn occ: Mariner
Mary A NEAL aged 26 b. Kings Lynn
Henry ANDERSON aged 41 b. Kings Lynn occ: Rug Weaver (Foot) (married visitor)

a marriage:
Marriages Sep 1870
ANDERSON Mary Ann Kings L. 4b 628
NEAL William Skerritt King's L 4b 628

so James had sisters Mary Ann and Charlotte. Also possibly a brother Henry.

so we now have even more clues to James ancestry.

[Sue1]

I feel very guilty but I most certainly haven't been idling - honest!

My earliest Anderson is (my maternal grandmother):

Agnes Louise Anderson b 1.3.1874 Kings Lynn (probably north end i.e. Parish of St. Nicholas) d 14.2.1914 (buried KL cemetery) m (1898) Bertie Baldwin b 1874 - d 1947 (remarried)

Children:
Octavia Elizabeth b 1899
Bertie Edward James 1901 - 1972 buried Hoveton St. John Churchyard
Charlotte Bessie 1902
Lily Emmeline b 1903 - d 1989
Esther May b 10.5.1905 - d 24.2.1994 Crawley, Sussex
Elsie b 1907
Harold 1909 - 1965
Edith Helen - 1910 - 1951
Bertha - 1913 - 1959
(and possibly Arnold 2nd child of this marriage but rather a mystery - family (my mother Esther) told he had died shortly after birth but he didn't appear to have - he died aged 14 or 16 near Sporle, Swaffham - husband should have been away at Boer War when he was born)

Parents of Agnes Anderson and siblings:
James Anderson 1846 61 Chapel Street, Kings Lynn - d21.9.1917 16 Keppel Stree, Kings Lynn and Sarah Heywood/Haywood b 25.12.1845 - 1933 B Sporle, Swaffham/Little Dunham, Swaffham, Norfolk
Other children of James and Sarah: (NB Sarah's parents were William Haywood and Hannah Rallinson)

Mary A E - b 1870 - b 15 Victoria Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk (All Saints - all other children also born then)
Rose May - b 1872 - 195??
Charlotte - b 1876
Sarah E - b 1880
James V - 1883 - 1953
Jessie (possibly Ethel Jessie) - b1889

Parents of James Anderson:
William Anderson b 1811 - d 1876 and Mary Ann Wickham - b 1814 - d 1907

Children:

Sarah - 1835
William - 1837
Henry - 1841
John - 1843
Agnes - 1844
Charlotte - 1847 - 1892
Robert - 1847
Elizabeth - 1850
George - 1851

Parents of William Anderson:
James Anderson b 1777 - d? m - Susan b 1877 (? where born but James was almost certainly Norfolk)

Children of James and Susan:

William - b 1811 - b 1876
No other children known of

The above are not absolute except for Agnes Louise Anderson and her parents.


Sue (sorry if this is muddled (I think it is OK) but I can only see 10 lines at a time as I type and I toggling between this an a.co - almost impossible and can only use up and down arrows! Am I the only one having this problem?).

[Sue1]

Florence is a bit of a clue possibly - my mother always told me that "Florence had a lot of children, went mad and had to be away" - is this the poor Florence she talked about - there doesn't seem to be another.

Sue