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    I ordered the birth certificate of Catherine Marie and she is indeed the daughter of Lily and Franciscus Aartsen and as with Leonardus she was born in the maternity hospital, so no home address.
    I have now sent for the birth cetificates of Dorothy and Margaret.
    If they are indeed all sisters it would be strange that all four would all be born in Scotland while having a domocile in London.

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    The 3 women are indeed all sisters. They all kept the name Aartsen . Only the son seems to have been adopted or changed his name. Only the last born (Margaret) birth certificate was signed by the father and gave an address of 215 Abercrombie Glasgow. The rest were all Maternity hospitals.

    The search for answers continues.

    A merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.

    gscott1

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    Have you made any attempts to track Franciscus Josephus Aartsen in The Netherlands, or in Indonesia. where a branch of the Aartsen family were sugar planters?


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    I am seeking any information on Franciscus Josephus Aartsen who married Lily Wilson in Rotterdam on 11/12/1913. Lily gave birth to a boy in Edinburgh named Leonardus Josephus Aartsen on 21/10/1918 who was my wifes father. He was later adopted and named Leonard Stuart Harrow. my wife and her brother are understandably anxious to trace their family history.
    On the birth certificate their domocile was given as Boysone road Camberwell
    London.
    On the birth certificate Franciscus's occupation was given as music hall artiste.
    Any information would be gratefully accepted.

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    I have searched every Dutch site I can find. The problem is that I do not speak Dutch so most of them are double dutch to me.
    As an aside the marriage date is 4/12/1913 not 11/12/1918. As I have said before these two people were never born, never married and never died.
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    Default Undoubling the Dutch

    If you find a "possibility" on a foreign language site, copy the URL, go to Google and under "more" at the top of the screen you'll find a dropdown menu. Pick Translate, paste the URL in and the site will appear in (sort of) English.

    Hope this helps

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    Also, there are some Dutch speakers on these forums who may be able to assist.

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    Thanks guy's.
    I have not found anything that presents even a possibility.
    I have found many Aartsens but none in the same era as Franciscus and Lily.
    I have looked in Scotlands people and U.K. bmd sites for Lily's birth or death without success, likewise with Franciscus.
    If there are any Dutch speakers on this forum your help in even finding their marriage in Rotterdam 4/12/1918 would be appreciated
    Thanks for your efforts,
    agaeorge.

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    Once again I have got dates mixed up. The marriage date is 4/12/1913.
    And I don't know who agaeorge is.
    Sorry for the error
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    We have a little progress to report. I got in touch with a person called Kirsten at - info(at)dutchancestrycoach.com - by chance and while she could find no marriage of the mysterious pair, she found the likely birth of Franciscus in 1/2/1888 in Rotterdam and info on his parents so we have found 1 birth but the rest is still a work in progress.

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    George

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