I have a long standing brickwall - which I may be getting somewhere with but the 'evidence' is dodgy, so would love other opinions.
My g.g.grandfather, Richard Goring was (according to census) born in Stirchley in 1796. I can't find his birth anywhere under this name but.....
There are several 'Gor-' born in Stirchley around the same time who appear in various transcriptions with a variety of very similar surnames. Looking at the IGI ,the Stirchley transcript on Genuki, and other postings I've seen on the net re these individuals, they appear to be the same family.
eg Thomas Goram m Eleanor Hensill Dec 7 1788 IGI
Thomas Gomm m Eleanor Hensill Dec 7 1878 Genuki
Some of the children are Gomm, some are Goram (I've also seen it spelt Gorin or Gorain)- none after 1799 but then more children to Thomas and Eleanor (who also appears at times as Elinor/Elianor) Goring in Dawley from 1802.
On top of this Richard named his first four children Ann (after wife's mother) Robert (after wife's father), Thomas (poss. his father?) and Ellen (after Eleanor perhaps?)
There is no other Richard baptised in Stirchley round this time or any other similar surname.
Could I have found him?
Carol
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Brickwall - spelling differences
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a couple of things you need to consider are:
1. accents and how a person interprets what they hear
2. how well educated some-one was and how good they were at spelling.
I found a mother and son whose surname was written 5 different ways, all in the space of 4 years.
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1788 and probably the only one present who could read and write was the preacher. Education acts did not come in until 1840's.
I had this discussion with my family where a number of name variations occured over 150 years. My answer was, this is Norfolk and we struggle to understand the good old Norfolk boys even today. A fresh faced young Vicar fresh from school in Surrey faced with strong accent could write it up just abuut any way. If the main intonation and structure is there, then it most probably is. Sometimes you can prove name changing with variations on Birth records. I did have one in 1915 or thereabout when Mallet became Hollet.
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QUOTE ] Thomas Goram m Eleanor Hensill Dec 7 1788 IGI
Thomas Gomm m Eleanor Hensill Dec 7 1878 Genuki [QUOTE
Sorry - typo here. Both dates are the same 1788
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They will be the same marriage then. IGI from Bishops Transcript Genuki from Parish Records. A transcription difference.
I would not give it more than a passing thought but I can she how a rouhgly spoken Goring with the G dropped and a strong accent could become Gomm. It could have been written Gorin and read as Gomm then transcribed to the BT as Goram, or mistranscribed from the BT's to the IGI record as Goram. All fascinating enough, but I am sure these are the same people.
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