Where Would a Shoemaker learn his trade?

[Keyboard86]

Hi

Have managed to make a little bit of progress finally but i could still do with some input.
Martha Tierney married to Thomas Carney Acton Street Liverpool with Samuel aged 15 living with them. Martha's birth cert contradicts marriage cert as it gives her father as Michael! Mother Bridget nee Fitzpatrick.
Someone found a Bridget Furney widow hemp spinner living at 12 springfield rd/Ct West Derby with the following family
John Son aged 22 BOOT/SHOEMAKER
Martha aged 19 Hemp spinner
Mary aged 16 Hemp spinner
Samuel aged 5 sholar

So now i know that John was still single in 1881 and that he was allready a shoemaker....so is there anyway I could find out more information knowing this much finally?

thanks

If Bridget is a Widow on the 1871, who is the father of Sam?
Can you find a birth?
Keyboard86

[RonOne]

Reference: RG11 Piece 3715 Folio 91 - Page 26 - (Copyright TNA)
Bridget FURNEY, Head, Widow, 40, Hemp Spinner, born Ireland
John FURNEY, Son, Single, 22 Boot & Shoemaker, born Old Swan, Lancashire
Martha FURNEY, Daughter, Single, 19, Hemp Spinner, born Old Swan, Lancashire Mary FURNEY, Daughter, 16, Hemp Spinner, born Old Swan, Lancashire
Samuel FURNEY, Son, 5, Scholar, born Old Swan, Lancashire
Residing at 12 Springfield St, West Derby, Lancashire, England

Possible birth registrations:

Births Jun 1859
Tierney John - W. Derby - Vol 8b - Page 408

Births Dec 1861
TIERNEY Martha - W Derby - Vol 8b - Page 425

Births Dec 1864
TIERNEY Mary - W Derby - Vol 8b - Page 371

Sorry, I can’t find a birth registration for Samuel!

[Keyboard86]

Hi

Have managed to make a little bit of progress finally but i could still do with some input.
Martha Tierney married to Thomas Carney Acton Street Liverpool with Samuel aged 15 living with them. Martha's birth cert contradicts marriage cert as it gives her father as Michael! Mother Bridget nee Fitzpatrick.
Someone found a Bridget Furney widow hemp spinner living at 12 springfield rd/Ct West Derby with the following family
John Son aged 22 BOOT/SHOEMAKER
Martha aged 19 Hemp spinner
Mary aged 16 Hemp spinner
Samuel aged 5 sholar

So now i know that John was still single in 1881 and that he was allready a shoemaker....so is there anyway I could find out more information knowing this much finally?

thanks

Hi to all, can someone please post the 1891 to show the relationship of Sam to Mary Carney?
Keyboard86

[Keyboard86]

Sorry mobile will not allow edit! Should be Martha Carney not Mary!
Keyboard86

[Keewatin]

Theres a site you can google called Liverpool History projects. It has indexes to Liverpool RC Marriages 1837-1900 and baptisms for 1888-1890 so far.For 3 pounds you can get both a transcript and an image of the register entry within 24 hours emailed to you. I've used it myself and it is really good.

Index shows a marriage for Michael Tierney and Bridget Fitzpatrick in 1859 at St Oswalds which is in Old Swan.

Sometimes images also have the witnesses addresses.

[Tierneylass]

oh thats brilliant i will look right this second! many thanks i will keep you posted!!

Tlass

[Raffaele]

John Tierney b 1858 +/-2 gets nothing on A****** for 1861

The same on Genes R******* gets two results in West Derby

Tierney John Lawrence 1860 Liverpool West Derby, Toxteth Park
Tierney John 1857 Liverpool West Derby, Toxteth Park

These are just the indexes and I do not have a subscription for GR. Can anyone look them up for us.

This looks fairly key as they are a number of Michael Tierney deaths 1861-71 and that would explain the break up of the family in 1871

[Lizzy9]

Hi Keyboard,

Here's the 1891. Living Garston, Liverpool.

Thomas Carney 29 Liverpool
Martha Carney 29 Liverpool
Thomas Carney 4 son Garston
Joseph Carney 1 son Garston
Samuel Tilney 15 lodger Liverpool

RG12; Piece: 3005; Folio 15A; Page 25 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

[Tierneylass]

Hi

There is no reply from my email request for the marriage transcription details ..last time they responded with a receipt fairly promt? Is it still an active service?
Thanks
Tl

[Keewatin]

Is this referring to the Liverpool History Projects site?

Did you hit the REQUEST FORM button and then fill in the form using the exact details that are on the index including the ref which is the year and the number after the year?
You then hit the submit button

You should then get a message from the site owner ,Marie, asking about payment. May take a few hours

K