New to this site. Been researching my family's roots in the UK for a little more than a year. Mostly from free links on the Web. Based on two letters dated from 1846 written from my IV Great Grand Father George Abbott of Plymouth, Devon, UK to his son Samuel Abbott, who immigrated to the USA( before 1836 ). Any help will be greatly appreciated! Surnames found to be linked to the Abbott name from the letters are Northway ( IV Great Grand Mother's maiden name), Lee; Lake. The letters were addressed from No. 20 South Side St., Plymouth, G B. Two letters, one from Jan. and one from Aug. The Aug. letter was to report that his wife Jane, Samuel's mother had died. That helped me obtain a Death Cert. from GRO., having the exact date of her passing.
Prior Thanks! to any and all who can offer any direction in this quest! Of course the Lineage in the US has been fished pretty clean and I'd be interested in any links to my distance Cousins ( if there be any )accross the pond!
James Abbott
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22-01-2010 02:37 PM #1Starting to feel at home.
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Abbott, Northway, Lee & Lake in Plymouth
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22-01-2010 02:50 PM #2Loves to help with queries.
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Hi James,
welcome on board.
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hi,,what is the age of jane ,,,can you work out her year of birth from the death cert ?
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22-01-2010 03:23 PM #4Loves to help with queries.
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this looks good,,,,, a george abbott,,,a widower,,,and check out the address !!
1851 census for--- 51, South Side Street, Saint Andrew, Plymouth
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1879 Folio: 808 Page: 8
ABBOTT, John Head Married M 30 1821 Fishmonger
Tavistock
Devonshire
ABBOTT, Mary Wife Married F 40 1811
Hazu
Cornwall
DYER, William Son M 11 1840 Scholar
Plymouth
Devonshire
DYER, Emily Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Plymouth
Devonshire
ABBOTT, Jane Daughter F 1 1850
Plymouth
Devonshire
ABBOTT, George Lodger Widower M 69 1782 Woolcomber
Tavistock
Devonshire
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i have just looked at the 1841 ,,,this george abbott was married to an Anne,,,,so more work needed,,,,but if this family are not related,,i will eat my hat..
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this is the 1841 ---
Gibbon's Lane, Charles The Martyr, Plymouth
HO107 Piece: 271 Book/Folio: 17 Page: 28
ABBOTT, George M 59 1782 Devon
ABBOTT, Ann F 60 1781 Devon
ABBOTT, John M 19 1822 Devon
ENGLAND, Ellen F 5 1836 Devon
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Hey gortonboy
This what I know: George Abbott, wife Jane Northway Abbott died Aug., 1846 , he was crippled and could not walk much? Had at least six children, maybe eight? Samuel; George; Richard; Jane; John; Thomas; possibly a William and a Mary? Thomas died of smallpox in Dec. 1836. Jane married a John Lee in 1838, have cert. Samuel shipped out prior to his brother's death? I have Jane's death cert. too. George is listed as a Poulterer? Found no listing in 1841 Census that I felt like could be their family. ?
There are to many Abbotts listed, surely some are related. But, just like the Abbotts of MA, USA there are so many we are not connected too? Well at least not in this country.
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Jane is listed a 51 at time of death.
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Gleaned from the letters
Relatives and people mentioned in the letters of George Abbott, Plymouth England to Samuel Abbott, Pittsfield, MA, America dated January and August of 1846.:
Samuel Abbott - addressee
Wife - Rebecca
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George Abbott - father- fact… Jan. 4,1846, “crippled in my both knees” “renders me very incapable of walking” “Very unwell lately”
George Abbott - brother- living in Plymouth and “bought to a mason and brick layer”, mentioned “inclination of coming to America”
Richard Abbott - brother- “is married and lives in Bristol, no children…”
Jane Abbott - sister- “is married with one John Lee brother of Exeter” possible marriage date of 1838 sent for copy of Marriage certificate.
John Lee - Brother-in-Law …possible business in Plymouth. “ They have a good Business and “where live all in one house being a very large one.”
John Abbott -brother- “has the care of the horses { we keep two horses, very good one} and goes to market with mother. Note: possible means still at home.?
Thomas Abbott - brother- “ is dead….9 years ago on the 23rd of December last. “… from the small pox.” I place this event at December 23, 1836.
Mary ….? -Unknown- “still remains in Exeter with a large family, six children.”
Wm….? - unknown, could be short for William Abbott, lives in Knockersknowles with Mary Ann Lake. They have 2 children, a boy of 8...
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george the bricklayer??
1851 ---- 33, High Street, Saint Andrew, Plymouth
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1879 Folio: 691 Page: 44
ABBOT, George Head Married M 30 1821 Bricklayer
Plymouth
Devonshire
ABBOT, Ellen Wife Married F 25 1826
Plymouth
Devonshire
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