Born in Union Workhouse New Sleaford

[Pam Downes]

Hi again

I have just seen that Lincoln Archives have punishment records from Sleaford Workhouse 1853 - 1902 plus some other material. Reference copies or for sale at £3.50. But may not have Waddinghams mentioned. (You may already have this info petra). http://culturalcollections.lincolnsh...&ty2=0&ha=2957
The archivist may be able to tell you if it is likely to be of use. lincolnshire_archive@lincolnshire.gov.uk

Will keep thinking about William B ....

The name of Waddingham is not mentioned in the punishment book for Sleaford workhouse.
Pam

[JAP1]

Hi grisel, What incredible resources you keep turning up. That Bird link is most impressive - and quite fascinating.

Hi Pam, Now I feel ashamed that I was too lazy to post at the time whatever few snippets I might have found out then about Lavinia. I offer the weak (false?) excuse that I thought that everything was all so complicated and confusing that I shouldn't add to it. But how often something which appears to be unrelated turns out to be the lynch pin. Anyway, now you've posted amazing full details so we have no excuse.

But I do still wonder whether William Brown WADDINGHAM's mc remains relevant or is now not needed ...

JAP

[petraroe]

Have you been able to identify the couple on the 1911 census? If so, how long did they claim on tat to have been married?

On the 1911 census it showed that they had been married 3 years. There were two children in the household: Majorie aged 3 and Charlotte (my nan) aged 2.

interesting that in 1901 William Waddingham, now allegedly born in 1871 and married to Charlotte, gives his birthplace as Osonby Sleaford. Probably lopped a few years off his age because Charlotte is only 23. RG13/4250 folio 88 page 27, civil parish of Potternewton

There is also a William Waddingham on the 1901 census born 1866 in Osbournby married to an Alice living in New Sleaford. But he didn't use the middle name brown or the initial B. If the one married to Charlotte did that may be worth me ordering (Especially as he later name a daughter Charlotte.)

I will let you know what it says

[petraroe]

Hi All

Well I finally have the marriage certificate for William Brown Waddingham and Charlotte Gowen.

He has his father listed as William Waddingham proffession Labourer, and mother listed as Elizabeth.

He gives his year of birth as 1867. (close enough)

So now trying to find out what happened to William Waddingham Senior for his name not to be given on the birth certificate.

I will keep you posted.

[Peter Goodey]

So now trying to find out what happened to William Waddingham Senior for his name not to be given on the birth certificate.

I'm afraid that being named on a marriage certificate is no guarantee that he ever existed.

...and mother listed as Elizabeth

Sorry, you've lost me now. Mothers aren't shown on marriage certificates.

[petraroe]

Sorry, meant to say mother named on birth certificate as Elizabeth Waddingham, not marriage certificate.

(That will teach me to post while I am meant to be working)

[petraroe]

Well I have found a little more information out about William Waddingham Senior and Elizabeth.

It would appear that William Waddingham was born in 1816 and died in 1846, hence Elizabeth being in the workhouse listed as a Widower.

They had 5 or six children together (William, Ann, Hannah, George, James and there are one or two mentions of another son called John)

Then there was another son named Thomas who was born in 1950 (four years after William seniors death) and then William Brown in 1866, there is also an Ellen and a Sarah born in the workhouse between the 1951 and 1961 census' but I have a feeling that Ellen (born 1860) may have been Anns daughter.

William Seniors parents appear to have been another William Waddingham and Mary Wass.

I am a little stuck on Elizabeths surname, I can find a marriage between a William Waddingham and Elizabeth Dent but I have found someone elses family tree that overlaps mine and has her surname as Smith. I will continue to search.

[Pam Downes]

1861

RG9/2342 f98 p13
Union Workhouse, Sleaford
Elizabeth WADDINGHAM, pauper, widow, 39, Serv[ant], bn Helpringham, Lincs

Also in the workhouse in adjoining entries (may be related)

Ann WADDINGHAM, pauper, unm, 20, serv[ant], bn Helpringham, Lincs
Ellen WADDINGHAM, pauper, 1, bn Sleaford, Lincs
(then the entry for Elizabeth)
James WADDINGHAM, pauper, 15, scholar, bn Osbournby, Lincs
Thomas WADDINGHAM, pauper, 12, scholar, bn Osbournby, Lincs
Sarah WADDINGHAM, pauper, 7, scholar, bn Sleaford, Lincs

Petra,
I don't know if you're still around, but I'm currently deleting a backlog of emails received through a Lincolnshire mailing list, and saw this Waddingham reference. Nothing to do with William Waddingham , but you might find it interesting.

LRSM = Lincoln, Rutland & Stamford Mercury 12 May 1854
Full details from the newspaper are given below; I have no further information.

Sleaford Petty Sessions 8 May 1854
John BRACKENBURY was charged by Eliz. WADDINGHAM with being the father of her illegitimate child. Both parties reside at Sleaford. Order made for 1s.per week.

The child may be the Sarah referred to in the 1861 census.

Other bastardy cases reported in the LRSM and currently transcribed (it's an on-going work) can be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/bastardycases.html

Pam

[hakepa]

Hi Pam, I am a newbie who came across your thread by accident. I was trying to find references to the Sleaford workhouse on Google as I have just received the marriage certificate for Frederick Hunt and Mary Presswood 20 Feb 1840, my gggrandparents One of the witnesses is Samuel Waddingham (who is the only one not to have made an 'x' and the other is Elizabeth Presswood. Frederick's parents were Thomas Hunt and Elizabeth Brown (of Helpringham). One of their children was baptised Brown Hunt.
Mary Presswood appears to have had two illegitimate children at the workhouse, Mary in 1837 and William 14 Jan 1839. William's birth certificate has as informer William Duffy master of the workhouse. The Hunts emigrated from South Rauceby to New Zealand in July 1840. My particular interests are currently the conditions in 1817 (the year there was no summer) and why Frederick was born at North Scarle in 1818, whereas his older and younger siblings were born at South Rauceby. In January 1817 Thomas and Elizabeth Hunt buried their three children within a week, and the child she was carrying was born a few months later and died within another six months. I hope either you or someone reading this may be able to guide me in my research.
Bill

[Pam Downes]

Hi Bill,
Welcome to Brit-Gen.

You may regret specifically asking me for help as I tend to want to know every little detail. And you're going to be no
exception.

Hi Pam, I am a newbie who came across your thread by accident. I was trying to find references to the Sleaford workhouse on Google as I have just received the marriage certificate for Frederick Hunt and Mary Presswood 20 Feb 1840, my gggrandparents One of the witnesses is Samuel Waddingham (who is the only one not to have made an 'x' and the other is Elizabeth Presswood.

Sleaford workhouse I'm ignoring for the moment.
On the marriage certificate of Frederick Hunt and Mary Presswood what occupation is given for Thomas, Frederick's father?

Frederick's parents were Thomas Hunt and Elizabeth Brown (of Helpringham).

Thomas Hunt and Elizabeth Brown were married in Helpringham on 14 May 1813. Thomas is a bachelor and 'of South Rauceby' and Elizabeth is 'of this parish', i.e. Helpringham. http://www.
lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=506843&iid=379990

One of their children was baptised Brown Hunt.

Where and when was he baptised? Did he survive to adulthood?

My particular interests are currently the conditions in 1817 (the year there was no summer) and why Frederick was born at North Scarle in 1818, whereas his older and younger siblings were born at South Rauceby. In January 1817 Thomas and Elizabeth Hunt buried their three children within a week, and the child she was carrying was born a few months later and died within another six months. I hope either you or someone reading this may be able to guide me in my research.

I want names and dates for the baptisms and burials of all the children you've found of Thomas and Elizabeth. (Burials of the children when they died young; not if they survived to adulthood.)

Trust me. I might sound like an old bag but I only ask for details so that there can be no misunderstanding.

Pam