Surnames: Beer and Stimpson (with a "P")

[lucygrasshopper]

Hi,

I have had wonderful help for the Peterborough and Crowland areas, now I am in the "big smoke" city of London and I am lost!!!

Sarah Elizabeth Stimpson married a William Beer on 24 Dec 1904. Certificate obtained.
Seemingly they had no (surviving?) children until I find a son, William John on the 1911 Census. They were living at 27 Micklethwaite Rd. Fulham.

I found: William John Beer Q1 Fulham 1911 v.1a p. 296
Next: Marguerite A Beer Q2 Fulham 1914 v. 1a p. 667 Mother's MN Stimpson.
Next: Ronald L. Beer Q2 Fulham 1919 v. 1a p.392 Mother's MN Stimpson

Family say there was a David Beer. I cannot find a David with the Mother's MN Stimpson

Question: I cannot seem to find out what happened to these three children. Either I'm daft or can't read what is in front of me...or...I have read so much that everything is a blur.

I have two candidates for the David. One born in 1923 with the mother's MN Beer
likewise another David born in 1927 also with Mother's MN Beer, so I am now discussing within the family the possibility of an adopted/fostered/reared child.

A surviving Grandson ( of the mystery David) says he knew of a William John and has no idea what happened to him. But has no knowledge of Marguerite or Ronald.

Can someone help with what may have happened to the first three children?

Thanks
Lucy

[christanel]

Christopher on genesreunited has Marguerite Beer in their tree. Is he one of your contacts?
Christina

[Peter Goodey]

A surviving Grandson ( of the mystery David)

This is confusing. Are you saying that this person knows that his grandfather's name was David BEER but that he doesn't know when he was born?

[Peter Goodey]

Can someone help with what may have happened to the first three children?

One reason for genealogy working backwards is that it's easier that way. If you're intent on tracking a family forwards you have draw up a list of possible events from the GRO index and obtain certificates.

[lucygrasshopper]

Hi

Christanel - will endeavour to find Christopher in GRU

Peter - Oral history gives a lead - folk know in their head, not on paper - and are adamant when they tell you something. My take on this has been...they got it wrong - it was embroidered or...it was someonelse's memory.

I have the information as posted above - the certificate is not going to tell me what happened to them later. I just can't find them.

Sorry for the merry chase...will keep looking.

Lucy

[Mutley]

I cannot find a David Beer but there is a
David Stimpson with mother's maiden name of Barrett.
March 1912 in Barnet. 3a/811

I don't know if there is a connection. Barnet is Herts and Fulham is west London but there is only about 20 miles between them.

When you say you do not know what happened to the three children do you mean their marriages and deaths? Sorry, I am a bit confused!

[lucygrasshopper]

Hello Mutley, My Sarah Elizabeth Stimpson was married to William Beer on 24th December 1904.

She and her husband appear on the 1911 Census....only one child, William John aged 2 months. I found his birth details.
For some reason there is a gap of some 6 years before the birth of William John.

William John, Marguerite and Ronald...the identified children listed in my first post, seemingly disappeared from records. I have their birth details. Father, Mother, year and born in Fulham. I can't find childhood death - or marriage of same. The trail has gone cold.

David could have been a Stimpson out of wedlock, but from what I am finding, he would have been more than likely, a Beer out wedlock.

Tall order I know...As suggested by Christanel in her reply to my original post, I have contacted Christopher...no reply yet.

It's a brickwall. Three children/adults whatever, of one family just don't disappear..do they? In Australia we had such a case but it was an abduction and still a mystery, but I am not into that...I just need direction to find William, Marguerite and Ronald. I think David will come out of the woodwork eventually.

Ta
Lucy

[Peter Goodey]

William John, Marguerite and Ronald...the identified children listed in my first post, seemingly disappeared from records. I have their birth details. Father, Mother, year and born in Fulham. I can't find childhood death - or marriage of same. The trail has gone cold.

I can see plenty of candidates. For example, Ronald L Beer married Dec 1940 Surrey Mid Eastern but as I've pointed out you need to obtain certificates to find out whether it's one of yours.

[ChristineR]

I have never looked at 1911 census records, but I am under the impression that the numbers any deceased children are listed. It does seem a long gap from marriage and then all of a sudden three births, but not impossible.

There is a marriage of a William J Beer in the Fulham district in late 1910. He does not marry a Stimpson, but it is possible that his bride was originally one.
Are you certain that the 1911 census is not that couple, and the children in the index belong to them.

Just a thought.

[lucygrasshopper]

Hi - thank you for your help thus far.
Peter - Yes - I will follow up that Ronald L. Beer in 1940.

As Christanel pointed out - I have tried contact with the Christopher she mentions regarding Marguerite Beer. - He hasn't replied but I am sure he is the same family - I will wait.
Only one to find now is William John Beer from the 1911 Census and birth detail in my first post.

As for David Beer...I am hoping he will fall into place if I hear back from "Christopher".
I have a feeling he was adopted or fostered from within a Beer family. Which would not be unusual.

Lucy