Ravenscroft Coat of Arms

[Ron Ravenscroft]

As most of you treefinders will know-A Coat of Arms was presented to just one person, and no one else can use it -apart from a direct male heir,with a slight
change on it, But nowadays we all tend to use it as" our Family Arms."

What I would like to find out is-- Who was the original Ravenscroft Coat
of Arms presented to, I have been told it could have been Warrin De
Ravenscroft of middlewich about 1225,

Any one got any ideas,???
Thanks Ron Ravenscroft

[Jan1954]

Hello Ron,

Have you contacted the College of Arms?

They may be found at college-of-arms.gov.uk

[Peter Goodey]

But nowadays we all tend to use it as" our Family Arms."

I don't know about that!

Only the College of Arms can provide the definitive answer. However, I would say that the Society of Genealogists have in their library something called "The family of Ravenscroft : reprinted from Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica".

[Ron Ravenscroft]

Many thANKS FOR YOU VERY QUICK REPLY

Yes i have applied to the college of arms, and they state that they can
do a search--£75-- being an OAP, I thought i would try the Parish Chest
first and save myself £75, but it looks like I will have to send them a
cheque, ---thanks anyway---worth a try.

[Geoffers]

A book of surname origins (most larger libraries with a reference section would have a copy), usually indicates early mentions of a name.

If you cannot get to a library, you might try a search of The National Archives - PCC wills on documents online and also Access to Archives to see what early references exist to the surname, and from there make a judgement as to which you think may be worth checking the next bit.

Armed with that information (and depending on where the name occurs), you might then try various visitations or there are heraldic books containing details of various arms - sometimes available at libraries or via sellers such as The Parish Chest.

Other than that (I don't know how accurate the site is), you might try Cheshire Heraldry (it turns up using a seach engine).

[gasser]

Google books search shows
"The family of Ravenscroft‎" by William Ravenscroft, Raymond Bathurst Ravenscroft published 1915 / Publisher: London : Mitchell, Hughes and Clarke.
and
"The Ravenscroft coat-of-arms and pedigrees‎" by Ruth Thayer Ravenscroft - published 1949 Publisher: Colorado Springs, Colo., 1949.

I tried to track these books down but had no luck - Perhaps if you could track down one or the other it might have the answer you are after.
Good luck!

[jamesgriffiths]

I have "The Family Of Ravenscroft" - it traces the various strands of the Ravenscroft family back to 806 although it is really only complete from the 11th century.

[Ron Ravenscroft]

Hi, James
Sorry for late reply , but do really thank you for your reply. and I would certainly like to read
your copy "The Family of Ravenscroft. Are you a member of the ravenscrofts or what is your connection. I have
traced my tree back to 1270 Richard De Ravenscroft----Lord of Ravenscroft So anything before that would be really
Good---What would be good if it tells me who lived in Ravenscroft Hall around 1700 I have it as Peter Yates.
in my book -Privately published-- James-Dare I ask you for a copy/Loan/sell/ download/ anything .
Hope you can help me E.Mail: ravens4 AT ntlworld DOT com
Ron Ravenscroft worsley Manchester-----------Please keep in touch

[Jan1954]

Hello Ron,

I have edited your email address so that spammers cannot just click on it and start to bombard you with unwanted emails. However, human beings can still read it.

If you would like to send James an email, just click on his user name and a drop-down box appears. One of the options is to send an email. That may be quicker than waiting for James to return to the forum