I have admitted defeat with the last two/three words on this line. It is only the fifth line of the will, and I believe the first few words say:
"... defender of the faith and in ??? ???? ? ?????..."
I can't even decide whether there are two, three or four words, and if I read each letter in turn, I come up with:
c?th yonedy a tely
which I can't make sense of whichever way I look at it, although each time I do, some of the letters change!
For context, I reckon that the first few lines of the will say:
"In the name of god and of the glorious and blessed / Virgin our Lady Sainte Mary and of all the holy / company of Heaven We Henry by the grace / of god King of England Frannce and Ireland / defender of the faith and in ???? ?????? ? ???? / under God the Supreme Hed of the church of / England and Ireland of that name the eight / calling to our remembrance the great gifts ..."
Hoping that someone can put me out of my misery!
By the way, I haven't finished the will yet! Have done 19 pages, but keep tiring of it and having a break before going back to it.
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Thread: Help with handwriting
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15-06-2009, 9:01 PM #1Jan65Guest
Help with handwriting
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15-06-2009, 9:10 PM #2pottokaGuest
Defender of the faith and in earth?
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15-06-2009, 9:19 PM #3sueannbowenGuest
Hi Janice - what period is this? I have a very handy book that gives examples of old handwriting which might help.
sue
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15-06-2009, 9:19 PM #4pottokaGuest
"ymdyatily" ... immediately?
giving: "Defender of the Faith and in earth immediately under God the Supreme Head of the Church of England."
Just that has given me a headache - rather you than me: good luck!
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15-06-2009, 9:21 PM #5Jan65Guest
Thanks Pottoka. Hmmm. I'm fairly sure of the "th" at the end of that word, but am also fairly sure that it begins with a "c" as that is fairly consistently the way a "c" was written throughout the document. But I'm no expert by any means, so am prepared to accept any and all suggestions! "in earth" could well make sense in the context, couldn't it?
I'm not at all sure about the second letter. It may well be two letters. Sometimes I think it looks like an "a", other times I think it could be an "is" (there seem to be two dots floating above these letters).
Like I said, each time I look, I see something different!
Any ideas about the following one/two/three words?
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15-06-2009, 9:24 PM #6Jan65Guest
[QUOTE=pottoka;291901]"ymdyatily" ... immediately?
QUOTE]
!!!!!!!!!!! Pottoka, I think you've got it, I think that's definitely what it says! I can see it now! Thank you, thank you, it's been bugging me from the start!
Still not sure about the "earth" but hey, you got "immediately", so who am I to argue?!
Janice
Edit - whoops, quote didn't work.
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15-06-2009, 9:25 PM #7sueannbowenGuest
If we are taking the word faith as OK then the th matches Pottokas 'earth' suggestion. Bit difficult to compare with just that line to go on.
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15-06-2009, 9:28 PM #8Jan65Guest
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15-06-2009, 9:38 PM #9terrysfamilyGuest
WILL OF HENRY VIII (1546)[1]
Henry R. In the name of God and of the glorious and blessed Virgin, our Lady
Saint Mary, and of all the holy company of heaven, we, Henry, by the grace
of God king of England, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, and in
earth immediately under God the supreme head of the Church of England and
Ireland, of that name the eighth, calling to our remembrance the great gifts
and benefits of Almighty God given to us in this transitory life, give unto
Him our most lowly and humble thanks, acknowledging ourself insufficient in
any part to deserve or recompense the same, but fear that we have not
worthily received the same....
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15-06-2009, 9:38 PM #10Jan65Guest
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