James COLEMOSS born 1806-1810 Heanor

[douglasp]

Hello Everybody,
Genealogy is tough work.
James Cole & Mary Gale marriage.
James Cole is my gggrandfather. I am bewildered about some of the data here. James married Mary GALE. Her death certificate states: died 26 Feb 1884 at Auckland, aged 75 (born 1808-09?). Parents: John Gale (labourer) and Mary nee Moffett. Husbands; James Cole & James Winepress. I have NO idea why she is being presented as a Moorfoot.

Marriage of James Cole: supposedly James Cole Moss stockingmaker married Mary Moorfoot on 26 January 1829 at Sculcoates Parish, Hull, East Yorkshire. At this stage James Cole was a SOLDIER. So this marriage does not fit. Any ideas?

Best Wishes
Douglas Parker douglasp AT melbpc DOT org DOT au 1 Mar 2011

[Procat]

Hi Doug,

Unfortunately the person who started this thread is no longer a member of the forum.

[thamesboy]

James Colemoss was my 3rd great grand uncle, and there are a lot of descendants in both Australia and New Zealand. I am 67, bornm and raised in NZ, lived in the uSA since 1959. Contact me at

algb AT charter DOT net

let me know what you have, and what you are specifically looking for, I may be able to help. You might have better success with John in NZ, as a Fencible, stationed at Howick, using the name of John Cole.

Regards,

Alan

[thamesboy]

Spoke recently with my cousin in Auckland, and realized that you are probably the party that contacted him, regarding Jame cOLE(mOSS). i CAN BE REACHED AT ALGB (at) CHARTER DOT NET My cousin and I are both genealogists, regularly exchange our files, documents and photos, etc. I was born and raised in NZ, lived in the USA, since 1959

Are you interested in the family that settled in Australia, or those that went on to New Zealand??

Regards,

Alan McGuiness

[PolDubhgain]

Hello Everybody,
Genealogy is tough work.
James Cole & Mary Gale marriage.
James Cole is my gggrandfather. I am bewildered about some of the data here. James married Mary GALE. Her death certificate states: died 26 Feb 1884 at Auckland, aged 75 (born 1808-09?). Parents: John Gale (labourer) and Mary nee Moffett. Husbands; James Cole & James Winepress. I have NO idea why she is being presented as a Moorfoot.

Marriage of James Cole: supposedly James Cole Moss stockingmaker married Mary Moorfoot on 26 January 1829 at Sculcoates Parish, Hull, East Yorkshire. At this stage James Cole was a SOLDIER. So this marriage does not fit. Any ideas?

I believe some of your details are right.
James and Mary Colemoss emigrated to NZ - he was a fencible soldier - with their 4 oldest daughters, Cole, Anne 1833 ENG Possibly born in Ireland
Cole, Mary 1841 ENG
Cole, Jane 1844 ENG
Cole, Susannah 1847 NTT ENG -This one there is a BMD for.
They had two more children: John 1849 and Elizabeth 1855 in NZ.

Mary and James may have been married before he was a soldier. I've seen the name Gale on some family trees but don't know where it came from.

[thamesboy]

I received an e-mail from this site, regarding Mary GALE who was married to James Colemoss, and died 26 Feb 1884. Implication was that the info. came from me?? My records show Mary (Moorfoot) Colemoss died on that date in Howick, Auckland, New Zealand. They had seven (7) children, I have the names and birthdates, etc. Note that Mary (Moorfoot) Colemoss later married James Winepress. More info on request. Children were: James, Anne, Mary, Jane Maria, Susannah, John and Elizabeth. At least one child was born in Ireland. James Cole(Moss) died probably as a result of a beating he sustained in Auckland, administered by Harry Bushell, to whom he was related by marriage. I have a copy of the coroner's inquest. I have Mary Moorfoot born 31 March 1811, so the baptism date would work. Also show Mary's parents as Thomas Moorfoot, born Oct 1779, Lockington, Yorkshire, married Mell, born 25 November 1783, Thornton by Pocklington, Yorkshire. They married 9 Feb. 1804, Rowley, Yorkshire, and Mary Mell Moorfoot died about 1840.

[PolDubhgain]

This is part of a letter from a very helpful person who contacted me.

Date of marriage was *Marriage of James Cole*:

supposedly James Cole Moss stockingmaker married Mary Moorfoot on 26
January 1829 at Sculcoates Parish, Hull, East Yorkshire. At this stage
James Cole was a SOLDIER. So this marriage does not fit.(This is from
here and it may have been just before he joined the army) .


There is no nationwide 1831 census unfortunately just very small samples so
the chances are he would not easily be found if indeed he is on one of them
without knowing where he might be in the first place
How do you know he was in the 37th ?


I have no source information; just what relatives tell me on the subjects
of his being in the 37th and census info..


What I want to know is if the regiment has records, however incomplete, of
personnel from around 1830-1847 as this might shed a glimmer of light on
his life.

Sorry its more questions than answers but they may help to establish where
to look

Thanks for taking the time,


Jane Maria COLEMOSS 1844 Tynemouth.jpg Jane Maria COLEMOSS 1844 Tynemouth

[janbooth]

Hello again Pol,

FMP has what looks like the service record of your James COLE. He is shown as born c1806 in Heanor, entered the 37th Foot as Private No 325 James COLE at Derby on 7 April 1823 and was in the Regiment for 21 years 67 days being discharged on 20 June 1845. His service record runs to 9 pages giving a physical description of him, where he served, including over 2 years in America, and the fact that on his discharge he intended to reside and receive his pension in Nottinghamshire.

Could be well worth using the pay per view facility to download his record.

Janet