John Campbell (1771) and Janet Dobie (c1778)

[Kevin Williams]

Hello folks,

my brickwall is John CAMPBELL and Janet DOBIE.

1771 - John Campbell was born in Argyll, Scotland. What do I know about John. Well I know he married a Janet Dobie and that he was a gardener at Llewerllyd , North Wales. I think he married Janet in Scotland, they then moved to Rhuddlan, North Wales. Here they had there family;

1. Alexander CAMPBELL
Born: 16 March 1798, Pendref, Rhuddlan
Baptism: 23 March 1798, Rhuddlan
2. James Henry CAMPBELL
Born: 04 August 1799, Rhuddlan
Baptism: 18 August 1799, Rhuddlan
3. Charles CAMPBELL
Born: 17 March 1807
Married: Jane PEACOCK, 14 January 1837, Abergele Witnesses where James Henry CAMPBELL and Frances TRAPCEIRN
4. Mary CAMPBELL
Born: 1813, Rhuddlan, Nth Wales
Married: Thomas WILLIAMS son of John WILLIAMS and Anne HUGHES
Died: 12 June 1887
5. Anne Frances CAMPBELL
Born: May 1806
6. Elizabeth CAMPBELL
Born: 14 November 1810, Rhuddlan
Baptism: 02 December 1810, Rhuddlan
7. Peter CAMPBELL
Born: 23 April 1815
Married: Elizabeth DAVIES, 27 October 1838, Rhuddlan
Born: Kings Head Inn, Rhuddlan
8. Edwin CAMPBELL
Born: 28 April 1822, Bodryddan
Died: 27 August 1835, Dyserth, Nth Wales
9. Jane Marie CAMPBELL
Born: Rhuddlan
Married: Henry WILLIAMS, Brother of Thomas WILLIAMS

I have tried to find John and Janet, here in Scotland but they are eluding me. John Campbell here in Scotland is like looking for David Jones in Wales.

If there is anyone out that that could shine a little light into this black hole, I would be very grateful.

Regards
Kevin Williams
https://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kevinsfamily/campbell.htm

[Raffaele]

John Campbell here in Scotland is like looking for David Jones in Wales

.

That is an understatement. Janet Dobie is quite popular but John Campbells from Argyll by the dozen.

I search the IGI and could not locate a Campbell Dobie marriage. That record is the key as it would at least give a parent name and thin out the search.

I assume you make the statement that they marrried in Scotland because you found the children in Welsh PR's and not their marriage.

If they married, it could have been anywhere although Dobie is a Scottish name. You say that John came from Argyll, what is the source of that information ?

[Kevin Williams]

I believe they wed in Scotland for 2 reasons, firstly, my grandmother provided me with information before she passed away, that it was widely believed in the family that thats where they married.
Secondly, in the 1851 census Janet Campbell (nee Dobie) is living at 24, High Street, Rhuddlan. She has her som Peter (55) with her at that time and he is listed as being born in Scotland.
The conventions of the day, would make it highly unlikely she would have had him out of wedlock.

Mind then again, the census inumerator, may have made a mistake in his birth place.

[Raffaele]

She has her som Peter (55) with her at that time and he is listed as being born in Scotland

.

7. Peter CAMPBELL
Born: 23 April 1815
Married: Elizabeth DAVIES, 27 October 1838, Rhuddlan
Born: Kings Head Inn, Rhuddlan

Have you misquoted the 1851 census or is there an issue here. Peter born Scotland was listed as Born Rhuddlan. Also 35 would be a better age for him.

My guess is you mean that Janet was listed as born Scotland and as always with Scotland and Ireland, the enumerator does not bother with a town.

Unless through the family you have any inkling as to where in Scotland they married or where in Argyllshire John was born I cannot see a way forward other than a straight guess. If anyone else has any suggestions I am sure they will make them. Eventually all trails dry up.