Emmigration look-up; Buchanan;

[janeygee]

Seeking info on a grt,grt, aunt/uncle who emmigrated to USA from
Glas/Scot, 1888 arriving New York and settled in Paterson City,NJ.
One daughter was born there "Catherine Buchanan"(b)May/1889.

Aunt/Uncle"; Robert Buchanan(b) Oct/1862 Scot;Occ;Pattern-Maker;
" wife ; Margaret m/s Clugston(b) 15Dec/1857;Dunbartonshire/Scot

In 1900 US Census the family is now living Havana Twnsp/Mason Cty,
Illinois, they had total '7' children,one 'Janet(Nettie) born in 'Scot' when
her mother went back on a visit in 1890.

I 'm looking for a date when 'Robt/Mgt' emmigrated, also as I believe
they lived in "Illinois" till they passed away.Robert became "Head-Pattern-
Maker" at a Wheel-Works Company, they owned their own home.

Appreciate any help ,,thanks

Kind regards;
Janey;

[beachbaby]

Hiya!

Do you know the name of the ship? I have looked thru and been unable to find them.

They are listed in the 1910 census in Illinois under transcribed name of Deichman (whoever filled that sheet out should have had something terrible done to him!) Barely legible. Cannot make out the street name but it's them. 8 children, 7 living. Am going to see if I can find out anything else. He is listed as a pattern maker.

Will let you know.

Teri

[beachbaby]

Did find a bit more, but it seems that after the 1920 census Robert and Margaret drop off the map. They are in Illinois for the rest of what I can find, to wit:

1920 census:
Robert and Margaret, 522 W Oakland Ave, Havana City, Ill
pattern maker
daughter Anna, unemployed
daughter Mary, telephone operator
Transcribed as "Buchanen"

1920 census:
daughter Catherine (Kate), married, 1604 Millman Street, Peoria
husband Thomas Holligan (son of James & Elizabeth), born Scotland 7 Nov 1885
arrived abt 1888
married about 7 years
he is a lard refiner in packing house
her brother William Buchanan is living with them, working as express messenger

1930 census:
Kate M Holligan and husband Thomas (butcher) are living with his brother Hugh's family at 822 Griswold Street, Peoria. They have been married 17 years.

Social Security Index:
Thomas Holligan died Peoria Ill July 1974

So far that's it! Oh yeah, I googled the Oakland Ave address but it seems that it no longer exists, or else the boundaries have shifted. It's possible that the house is no longer there.

Teri

[janeygee]

WOW Teri,,, How can I thank you,,? The info you found is terrific,,
what I gave myself was from the family history, I have a cousin
in Glas/Scot in his '80's whose granmother was 'Elizabeth Clugston'
the sister of "Margaret m/s Clugston Buchanan" he does not know
too much history as the families moved around a lot for work and
lost touch or never socialised,

I found my info on 'ancestry' but they don't give out much background
stuff. I have no idea what ship "Margaret & Robert" arrived in NY. on Teri
I am not sure if they married in 'Scot or NY" I've been looking in both areas
have not found them, did find their daughter "Katie" (b) 1890 NY. and census
says they emm/1888. When 'Margaret' returned to 'Scot' on a visit she had
' Catherine(Katie) with her and "Janet(Nettie) (b) 1890. they returned to
US '1892',,, could you perhaps find a passenger list for then,,,?????

I have to say Teri there was a very large contingent of "Clugston"families
in the Barony/Parish/Glas in those days and they were all related in some
way or another and a lot of them emmigrated to USA,living in NY,NJ,Illinois,
I have files on quite a few looking for a match.

I did check the 'Soc/Seq/Death/index' for a 'Pension' I wrote it down now
can't find it, typical,!!! I think it was for "Margaret Buchanan" pension # XX
880 Europe, it made me think Robert had died and Margaret went back to
Scotland,,, I will give it another check,,,

Anything further you may find Teri I would appreciate hearing from you,
thank you very much,,,

Kind regards;
Janey;

[beachbaby]

It makes sense if the families ended up in the states for a couple of reasons. Certain states had an abundance of basic blue collar jobs, and Illinois was among them (think steel industry, and automobiles and the railroads - Chicago was a huge hub for industry and anyone could find a good paying job). They would head there perhaps intending to go further, but instead find a job and set down roots. If you know a person's occupation sometimes you can find them by going to an area of the country that specializes in that - shoes and fabrics were a staple for New England, and steel, etc as I said was the midwest. The south was agricultural and California a world of its own (lol). Anyway that helps sometimes. It makes sense that the Clugstons would have gone where they had family. And single siblings would in the 1920s stay with older ones once the parents were gone (which leads me to believe that at least Robert died in the 20s). As to Kate and her husband living with Hugh's family, it was the depression and families grouped together (as they did everywhere). So it seems that the Clugstons repeated the pattern of Bob and Margaret. I found a David, don't think he's yours, discharged from the Army for mental disability. The other sisters probably married.

I got the impression that they married in Scotland. I did not find the immigration forms, but in one of the census forms it said he was naturalized (became a citizen, haven't found that yet either). Illinois records are the pits - nothing digitized. The immigration records can be a real morass to get thru and I didn't have time yesterday. I will take some time today as the only thing I have to do is take the cat to the vet and since it snowed again!!!!! last night I'm going to be a slug.

I know what you mean about losing things - I write stuff down on pieces of paper and then CANNOT locate them - so aggravating! You should see my office!

Will let you know what I find - such fun!

Teri

I just realized something - looked at your info and you're Canadian (how could I have missed that). There were some immigration forms for a Robert Buchanan coming into the US from Canada - do you think it's possible that a daughter or two ended up moving there? (I really got spoiled researching in Utah - they have everything). What about the family search web site? I didnt' think to try that

[beachbaby]

Darn - ran out of time.

I meant to say that I set these things up in a tree (makes it so easy to do the research) and if you want to look at the forms I found I will send you a link. I just need a pm with your email address in it.

teri

[beachbaby]

Just found something interesting - added it to the tree

On 13 May 1891 a Mrs Holligan and assorted children, listed as "settlers", landed in Boston from Glasgow. One of these, Thomas, aged 5, is eventually going to marry Katherine Buchanan, daughter of Robert and Margaret.

Listed as travelling with the family is a 5 year old male, Matt Clugston.

Thought that was interesting. Do you have a Matt?

Teri