Hi everyoneOriginally Posted by Guy Etchells
I have now got a copy of Thomas Norman's death cetificate which states that he died on 17/11/1915 in Alexandria Hospital Cosham cause of death Pneumonia 6 days.
Was this hospital a military one?I believe its in Portsmouth.
I'm sure he did go to France could he have been shipped back due to his illness.Did they used to do that with the soldiers?
As he is in a cwg surely he must have gone over to France like his brother?
There is no service number on the death certificate just Sapper Hants Fortress R.E. and a private j Heyes was present at the death.
Have I come to the end of the line trying to find if Thomas did go to France?
Would appreciate your comments
Regards
Sue
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02-02-2005, 7:50 PM #21sue normanGuest
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02-02-2005, 10:57 PM #22GeoffersGuestOriginally Posted by sue norman
Originally Posted by sue norman
Medal Card of NORMAN, Thomas P.
Corps:
Royal Engineers 105659 Sapper
Royal Engineers WR252446 Sapper
Geoffers
Charlbury, Oxfordshire
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03-02-2005, 11:34 AM #23sue normanGuestOriginally Posted by Geoffers
I,ve looked at the medal card of Thomas P norman and I'm satisfied that hes the one.
Thanks for your help .Thanks to all
Cheers
Sue
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04-02-2005, 1:15 AM #24Terry Waters-MarshGuest
Casulties of War or Sickness
Sue,
Illness claimed almost as many lives during WW1 as did battle. In the Middle East, Africa and Mesopotamia more lives were lost to illness than battle - common fatal illnesses included TB, Dysentery, Cholera, Typhoid, Pneumonia and perhaps the worst of all, Malaria. Infections were also a big killer as it was not until WW2 that penicillin and antibiotics started to make their mark.
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06-02-2005, 1:35 PM #25sue normanGuest
Thanks Terry
What I have thought about since is as Thomas had a young family would his wife have got a pension after his death and when were the medals issued?
Does anyone know if there are records kept of military hospitals at that time?
Also could he have got the pneumonia from being gassed wasn't there mustard gas about at that time?
Sorry for all my questions its just how my brain works!
Cheers
Sue
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24-02-2005, 10:08 PM #26Terry ReevesGuest
Thomas Norman
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but Thomas P Norman cannot be your man. The second number, with the WR prefix, belonged to a man who served with an Inland Waterways, Docks or Railway Company, and in some instances to men serving with Quarrying and Road Companies. The WR prefix was not introduced until 1916-17. If he was entitled to campaign medals, any changes of number would have been noted on his medal index card, starting with his original number.
2/2nd Hampshire Fortress Company was a second line Territorial Force Unit. With the rapid expansion of the TF just after the outbreak of war, it was necessary to raise new units, and to maintain the local connection, the unit numbers were "fractionalised". The Hampshire Fortress Engineers in fact became 1/7th (Hampshire) Field Company, as part of 28th Division and joined the Divison in France in October 1915. In the same month, 28th Division moved to Egypt and in November 1915, embarked for Salonika. All this, along with the absence of a medal index card bearing his original number, appears to rule out service overseas.
Fortress Engineers were raised to provide support for the Royal Garrison Artillery at certain defended ports at home and abroad. Regular Army units principally took responsiblity for those ports abroad and Territorial units for those at home. Prior to the war, Hants Fortress Engineers HQ was at Hampshire Terrace, Portsmouth, with drill halls in Portsmouth and Gosport. They provided 3 Works Companies for maintenance of defences, and 4 Electric Light companies. Given his four figure number, it would appear likely that he was a wartime volunteer, joining in 1914/15 and fell victim to injury or illness whilst at home. Your best bet would be to see if his service record still exists at the National Archive at Kew.
Out of interest, the RE Museum at Chatham does not hold records for individual soldiers.
If I can help further , please let me know.
Terry ReevesLast edited by Terry Reeves; 24-02-2005 at 10:19 PM.
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08-03-2005, 11:24 AM #27sue normanGuestOriginally Posted by Terry Reeves
Thanks Terry for letting me know about the 2nd/2nd Hampshire Fortress Company.
It seems he was supposed to go overseas like the others but became ill before he went
and died.At least he didn't have to witness the carnage.
When I get time I'll have to find out if his service record still exists at the National Archive Kew.
I'm not worried about the medals its just his story I'm after to help with our family history.
Thanks again
Sue Norman
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