NEATE in Devizes area 18-17C

[NickWilkinson]

Hi Midge

Yes. I am sure we have the same CARTER family. George Frederick CARTER, christened 12 Jan 1834 in Saint Mary Lambeth, was the 6th child of 11 born to Frederick William CARTER and Dennas Alice NEATE. George Frederick married Clara LEA in 1855.

Please contact me on nickwilkinson AT bluewin DOT ch for more information.

Nick

Nick Wilkinson - Neate in Devizes area 18-17C

Hi Nick,
I'm a newbie here so please excuse my late message trying to catch up on this thread. I am trying to find the parents of George Carter born in Lambeth about 1834. On George's marriage cert. his father is given as Frederick Carter (occupation Mason) so I have reason to believe that Frederick William Carter and Dennas may have been his parents. The 1851 census shows Dennas as being born in Devizes so having 'Googled' "Dennas from Devizes" I've ended up here and was amazed to find your posts! Are you still interested in the Carter family and do you think I'm right in thinking Dennas may be my ancestor?

[NickWilkinson]

Hi Greybird

The quick answwer is "YES". I will answer you in more detail offline.

Nick Wilkinson.

I have just realised something I had not picked up in my earlier posts. My G.g.grandfather, George Cole (son of Dinah Neate and nephew of Dennas Neate) married his step-sister, Mary Ann Faulkner in Newington, London (then in Surrey) in 1852. One of the witnesses to the wedding was Harriet Carter. Details of the marriage cert is on BMDshare.com.

The following year. 1853, George's brother, Frederick, married Harriet Carter, also at St Mary Newington. I have a picture of her, kindly provided by Vincentcay, who is descended from Frederick and Harriet.

Newington is not far from Lambeth. The family had links with the gun-making trade in London . Frederick was also a gunmaker, working in London to begin with and then moving back to Devizes to take over the business when Thomas Ewell Lott - his stepfather- died. Were the Carter family also in this trade perhaps?

[Midgie]

Hi Midge

Yes. I am sure we have the same CARTER family. George Frederick CARTER, christened 12 Jan 1834 in Saint Mary Lambeth, was the 6th child of 11 born to Frederick William CARTER and Dennas Alice NEATE. George Frederick married Clara LEA in 1855.

Please contact me on nickwilkinson AT bluewin DOT ch for more information.

Nick

Hi Nick,
Thank you for your reply and for the information regarding the marriage of George Carter to Clara Lea. This detail is really useful but sadly means that we do not have the same Carter family! My ancestor George married Maria Taplay in 1864 so I shall have to continue searching for the right George and father Frederick. Many thanks.

Midgie

[LeeROooo]

Hello Nick,

I am descended from Thomas and Elizabeth Neate's daughter Dinah (c1795). She first married who was a gunsmith in Northgate Street Devizes. After his death in 1835, she took over the business and then remarried to Thomas Ewell Lott - also a gun maker (later of Reading). Her son George Cole married Thomas Lott's daughter Mary Ann Faulkner (widow). Their daughter Emily was my g.grandmother so I am descended from both her husbands!

I assume this makes us distant cousins.

I stumbled across this forum tonight while researching John cole the gunsmith, I have noticed that some of you are related to John Cole, I have actually just purchased one of his guns if anyone would like to see some pictures or ask any questions I would be more than happy to share.

Lee

[greybird]

Hello Lee

I would love to see pictures of your John Cole gun. My brother and I have been trying for some time to track down some of his work. My brother will be particularly happy - quite coincidentally he has been involved with black powder shooting for many years. It was quite a surprise to learn that we had gunmakers in the family. We have recently seen examples of our other gunmaking ancestor's work, but until now, John Cole had proved more elusive.

Thank you very much for the offer.

[greybird]

I would just like to say that Lee has very kindly provided me with photos of his gun, after I sent him a private message. So exciting to see one at last!

[greybird]

Very excited! We have bought the gun from Lee - my brother brought it over to show me last night. It has lived a very hard life but it's lovely to have something that says "Cole, Devizes" on it.

Many thanks to Lee for taking the trouble to make contact and for agreeing to part with it.