surname interest frederick palmer from jamacia/liverpool

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Hello
Í'm new to this group but am hoping it might provide some information about
my great great grandfather, Frederick Palmer
Most of the information I have is family folklore, which needs to be treated
with some scepticism. Family folklore has it that he was a
physician/surgeon and that he was a ships surgeon, and died at sea circa
1837 in the Caribbean. We cant find any record of his death.
Not only Frederick Palmer, but his son (my Gr greatfather) Arthur Wellington
Palmer seem to have been somewhat elusive.
Frederick Palmer seems to have been born circa 1800 in Liverpool,
Lancashire. We cant find a birth for him, and not knowing his parents
names doesnt help.
The following is fact.
Frederick Palmer married Harriet Denis Hensman on 17 September 1833
in Liverpool. From the marriage details he is described as a widower,
although extensive searches have found no marriage for him in England.
They had a son, Arthur Wellington Palmer, who was baptised on 2 December
1834 in Liverpool.
Another son, Horatio Frederick Palmer was also born circa 1836 - birthplace
unsure. One source has it as Brooklyn New York, en route to Jamaica,
another source says Jamaica.
Now.....through the Jamaica Family Search site I have found a Frederick
Palmer marrying a Sussanah Yates in 1826 in Kingston. I cant find any death
of Sussanah, but it would give credence to Frederick's claim as a widower on
his marriage to Harriet.
Through the same site I can find a Frederick Palmer in 1831 and 1832
Almanacs as a planter (is he MY Frederick Palmer?)

In 1834 I have a newspaper report of Frederick Palmer, formerly of Rosanna
Mount, in the parish of Port Royal, Planter and Practitioner in Physic and
Surgery, then of ......(numerous Liverpool addresses)....in the insolvency
courts In Liverpool

I have Harriet Palmer (named as widow of the late Dr Frederick Palmer)
advertising in the Liverpool Mercury in 1839 as opening a school for ladies.
(Family folklore says she did in fact teach young ladies)

Family folklore also says that Frederick died in or around Jamaica and was
'well off'. Unfortunatly Frederick had left his affairs with a trusted
friend who absconded with the lot and left Harriet destitute. Somehow she
managed to get herself and her two young sons back to Liverpool where she
took up teaching as a living.

Frederick has proved very elusive (as has his son Arthur Wellington Palmer)
I know some about Arthur Wellington Palmers life but cant find his death
(althought I think possibly in Australia) Even his son, my great
grandfather, Arthur Stanley Palmer has secrets. I have three possible
birthplaces for Arthur Stanley, but cannot confirm or deny any.

If anyone has any clues, I would so love to hear from you.

Kind regards
Paula Wells

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Some of your Family folklore seems to be accurate.
1841 census HO107/561/21 folio 12 page 16, 29 Bedford Street North, Liverpool, Lancashire
Harriett PALMER 30 Teacher
Arthur PALMER 6
Horatio PALMER 5
All born in Lancashire. Also in the house are 2 teachers, a medical student & 2 servants.

1851 census HO107/2175 folio 797 page 46, Old Chester Road, Tranmere, Cheshire (just a ferry ride across the River Mersey from Liverpool)
Harriett STRAKER, head, wid, 40, Teacher (private), Liverpool
Arthur W. PALMER, son, Unm, General merchant's clerk, Liverpool
Horatio F. PALMER, son, 14, Broker's clerk, America, British subject
Eve STRAKER, dau, 6, scholar, Liverpool
Clara Mary STRAKER, dau, 3, scholar (at home), Cheshire, Rock Ferry
Mary HENSMAN, mother, wid, 70, Annuitant, Hunts. Huntingdon
Alice McDONALD, serv, U, 20, General servant, Ireland

Harriett D. HENSMAN/PALMER married John C. STRAKER in 1844 in Liverpool. ( www.lancashirebmd.org.uk )

Intriguingly, I found these entries in the New South Wales & Tasmania covict records:
Frederick PALMER convicted 11 May 1835, went to New South Wales on the Royal Soverign, arriving in 1835.
Frederick Palmer HULME, arrived on the Royal Sovereign in 1835, life sentence, pardoned 1846 - 1849.

Could he be yours?