Sackville

[Florence Patterson]

Seeking information re: Dorothy Sackville
daughter of Gilbert Sackville and Margaret MacDougall b 1801 in
Scotland. Presbyterian (1881 census)IGI

Dorothy born ca 1818 /19 Anstead Farm, near Beadnell
Gilbert was a tailor and moved to London, England where he
lived/worked on Duke Street.

Dorothy married August 1843 at St. George's Church, Hanover Squ
London, England James Jarvis. This family moved to Ontario in
1855.
Florence Pelton Patterson
Stratford, Ontario, Canada

[Lesley Robertson]

Seeking information re: Dorothy Sackville
daughter of Gilbert Sackville and Margaret MacDougall b 1801 in
Scotland. Presbyterian (1881 census)IGI

Dorothy born ca 1818 /19 Anstead Farm, near Beadnell
Gilbert was a tailor and moved to London, England where he
lived/worked on Duke Street.

Dorothy married August 1843 at St. George's Church, Hanover Squ
London, England James Jarvis. This family moved to Ontario in
1855.
Florence Pelton Patterson
Stratford, Ontario, Canada

Since this message is 3 years old, you probably have more information on these people by now. I was wondering whether you've found them in the 1851, or even the 1841 census?
I'm not sure why you put this message under Berwickshire - I'm going to move it up to General Scottish to see if it can attract a new audience.
Lesley

[Lesley Robertson]

This arrived in my mailbox.

Good Morning! No, I have never heard a word about Gilbert Sackville and/or
Margaret MacDougall who
alledgedly was born " near the borders"
I searched, on my own!, but got nowheree
I would appreciate any help that you can give me. I never did get any
reply to my query.
Many thanks for your interest. Incidentally, what was the message that
was sent to me and that I never got?

Florence Pelton Patterson

I'm afraid that I don't know anything about a message. I was referring to your post of 3 years back.

If you can find these people in the 1851 census, it should give you their birth parishes, or at least county, which will help a lot.
Do they tie in with the Gilbert Sackbille who married Isabella Budd in 1860 in London?
Lesley

[glenn1121]

Hello

I was researching my family tree and found the name of Gilbert Sackville on a marriage certificate from 9 November 1840 as the father of the bride, Jane Sackville.
Gilbert was born about 1779/1781 in Alnwick, Northumberland, England and married Margaret and then later on is listed as married to Isabella.

[glenn1121]

Just to let you know I contacted Florence and we have shared information.
With the shared information we have confirmed the area where Gilbert Sackville was born and married (Berwick), where he worked and lived (Marylebone in London), that he married 2 of his daughters off to two men who had the same occupation and that it seems all his children or grandchildren we dead or had left the UK before he died. That possibly explains why he remarried so late in life (82!). Finding the who is not half as interesting as finding out how the wheres, whys and whats!

[Lesley Robertson]

Just to let you know I contacted Florence and we have shared information.
With the shared information we have confirmed the area where Gilbert Sackville was born and married (Berwick), where he worked and lived (Marylebone in London), that he married 2 of his daughters off to two men who had the same occupation and that it seems all his children or grandchildren we dead or had left the UK before he died. That possibly explains why he remarried so late in life (82!). Finding the who is not half as interesting as finding out how the wheres, whys and whats!

If that's Berwick on Tweed rather than Berwickshire, maybe we should move this thread to the Northumberland forum?
Lesley

[glenn1121]

The Sackvilles were originally from Northumberland and moved to Marylebone in 1820s or 1830s.

[Lesley Robertson]

The Sackvilles were originally from Northumberland and moved to Marylebone in 1820s or 1830s.

In that case, Northumberland it is!
Lesley

[emjay]

The Lower Meeting House in Berwick baptism register has 3 entries under the name Sackels/Sakels

Parents - Gilbert & Margaret (formerly McDougle), occupation tailor
Children - Jane baptised 19 February 1813, George baptised 6 October 1815, and Dorothy baptised 28 December 1817

[sandyman41]

It's great to see some interest in Gilbert Sackville and family. I was in touch with Florence several years ago about Dorothy Sackville Jarvis.
I'm also happy to see a few more tidbits of information come to light.
For example, I hadn't known that Gilbert was born in Alnwick but now I see it is in the 1861 census.
I don't even know if I am connected to Gilbert and his bunch but I am descended from a Sackville family who lived along "England/Scotland Borders", "near the River Tweed", and "near the Cheviot Hills": all according to family tradition.
A John(James?) Sackville, b abt 1782, his wife Annie/Agnes?, abt the same age, and the following 5 grown children emigrated to Bewdley, Ontario, Canada in the 1830s.
James Sackville b: ABT 1806 in England
William Sackville b: ABT 1808 in England or Scotland
George Sackville b: ABT 1812 in England
John Sackville b: ABT 1815 in Scotland
Agnes Sackville b: ABT 1820 in England

They don't seem to have left much of a trace in the records on either side of the border so Gilbert and his family are the only Sackvilles I have ever heard of in that part of the world at that time period.

Oh yeah, someone once did a search of Northumberland records for me and found these 2 burials, probably children. Maybe they are Gilberts?

Berwick Burial Register. Details are:

p.88 #697 George Sackville, of Shaw's lane Berwick, buried 27 Feb. 1817, J. Barnes officiated.

p.144 #1151 John Sackville, of Shaw's lane Berwick, buried 25 Dec. 1819, J. Barnes officiated.


Richard Smith