Marriage St. George Chapel May Fair

[Betty Willson]

I am trying to find the marriage of my Great Great Great Grandparents Edward and Martha Nelhams. There is a ? Nelhams marriage to ? Nelhams, which I stumbled upon some time ago on a list of marriages. I think the marriage of my 3 x G. Grandparents should be around 1778 but I have vague information that the Nelhams marriage at the above chapel was 1788.
Can someone tell me the best way to check this out. My 3 x G. Grandparents lived around the area of Richmond Surrey after they married. Edward Nelhams died 1825 aged 74. Martha, his wife died 1829 aged 73. I would be grateful for any help. Betty Willson

[Elley]

Hi Betty,

Boyds has a marriage in 1788 of an Edward Nelham and Martha Mortimer Isleworth

In looking in St George Hanover Square marriages I did find this entry, I thought
I would post it in case Martha was widowed and remarried.

9 August 1807 Jeffrey Godfrey to Martha Nelhams

Hope this may help.

Elley.

[Betty Willson]

Thanks Elley, Thanks very much for answering my request for knowledge! I think the 1807 marriage of Martha Nelhams to Jeffrey Godfrey, which you mention, at St. George Hanover Square is the marriage of the oldest child, Martha Nelhams, of my 3xg. grandparents Edward and Martha Nelhams. The marriage of a Nelhams to a Nelhams that I am particularly interested in, at St. George Chapel is on Pallot's Marriage list (I think).

I did not believe when I was told about it, that it could be my 3xg. grandparents marriage because it was 10 years too late but I have been wondering if the date was incorrect or perhaps they didn't marry as soon as they should have. Edward and Martha Nelhams had 9 children spanning the years 1779 to 1799.

Likewise do you think the marriage on Boyds of Edward Nelham to Martha Mortimer in 1788 could be wrongly dated. The name Mortimer is of interest as I have found it mentioned in connection with the Nelhams family. Best wishes Betty Willson

[Elley]

Hello Betty,

Sorry, my apologies typo error, it should have been 1778 Isleworth, my fault I
should have double checked!

On the A*******y index it has a Nelham - Nelham in St Marylebone. On looking at the image the only name is Nelham (Joseph) The number below is 37 with what looks like a 2 in a circle below. I do not know what this means. No date given.

The name Nelham beneath ithat entry appears to be just a list of name variations for Nelham.

Maybe someone else may have the register for St Maryebone and be able to give you more information?

Elley

[janbooth]

Elley,

There is also this marriage at St Georges Chapel, Hyde Park Corner, Mayfair which looks as though it may be relevant to you although somewhat earlier:

9 October 1753 William BELL and Sarah NELHAMS, of Richmond, Surrey

Also a marriage at St Marylebone on 13 November 1785 of a Joseph NELHAM,b & Sarah BERESFORD, s, by B.L. Witnesses: Elizabeth PAYNE John BERRY. This marriage is confirmed by an entry in Boyds Marriage Index.

There is also another entry in Boyds Marriage Index that you might be interested in 1707 of a Jos NELHAMS to a Mary SMITH at Richmond St Mary, Surrey.

Also from Boyds Marriage Index are:

St George Hanover Square

1803 Elnr NELHAMS to Tho DEGERY
1804 Elz NELHAMS to Tho COOK

Grosvenor Chapel Mayfair

1753 Sara NELHAMS to Wm BELL (as mentioned above)

Richmond St Mary

1714 Jn NELHAMS to Elz PATIENCE
1706 Elz NELHAMS to Tho EDMONDS

HTH

Janet

[Peter Goodey]

If memory serves me correctly, St George's Chapel, Mayfair was a marriage shop that went out of business when the Hardwick Act came into force (1754).

A proportion of their business was taken over by St George Hanover Square. This church thus acquired a dual reputation - firstly, it was quite fashionable among the well-to-do, respectable society. Secondly, it also catered for couples looking for a quick, no-questions-asked marriage.

[Betty Willson]

Thanks to everyone for your help. janbooth, Thank you! I think that marriage for William Bell and Sarah Nelhams is relevant, also the 1804 marriage Eliz Nelhams to Tho Cook is the marriage of the second daughter of Edward and Martha.

Peter Goodey, Your information about St. George's Chapel is very interesting. Edward and Martha Nelhams were very poor, I believe. When Edward Nelhams died 1825, his address was "Pensioner's Alley" and his wife Martha died c. 1829 in the Workhouse.

Happy Easter, Betty Willson

[Betty Willson]

Can anyone tell me where or how I could obtain Boyds List? I would like to know if the Nelham/Mortimer marriage was at All Saints' Church Isleworth. Does Boyds List show the name of the church please? Betty Willson

[janbooth]

Betty,

Boyds Marriage Index is available to search on British Origins, but this is a pay-per-view site. The entry does not show the church, only the fact that the marriage took place at Isleworth, Middlesex.

Janet

[Betty Willson]

janbooth - Thanks for the information Janet. I thought that was the situation about Boyds so I tried to join up for Origins when I received the information about the Nelhams/ Mortimer marriage through B-G Forums just the other day but I was unable to do so as apparently when I was on that site four years ago, I must have given either my name or password incorrectly as now they wont let me back on to it. I have a great habit of messing things up but I still have the information I received about Boyds 4 years ago and that marriage is not mentioned. The church at Isleworth (All Saints) was damaged by fire during the 2nd World War and a lot of records were lost, I have been told. I don't suppose there is any way I could verify if this marriage is indeed my 3XG grandparents? Best wishes, Betty Willson