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I have a William Mumford transported from Portsmouth Apl 1834 aboard the Augusta Jessie arriving Tasmania, Australia 22 Jan 1935.
Where do I access his prison records?
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03-01-2008 10:08 PM #1A fountain of knowledge.
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black sheep ancestors. you may find something here.
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03-01-2008 11:04 PM #3GeoffersGuest
Aside of anything that exists in Australia to help researches from that end....
The National Archives (TNA) at Kew has numerous research guides including this one for Convicts
Scroll down the long list to those records prefixed HO for the places to start. As you know the name of the ship, I suggest starting with the Convict Trasportation Registers in HO11.
Search TNA's catalogue by entering the ships' name in the word or phrase field and in the department or series code enter HO11.
This shows two entries for the ship, presumably the first one is the date of landing in Australia. If the document is of use, you should be able to order a copy of it (at a price) from TNA.
This should give you a date and place of conviction which is at least a starting point in trying to lcoate any court records that may survive.
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And in Tasmania you can get a copy of his file. Apparently they are full of information and well worth the money.
http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes
I see that there were two of that name arrived in 1835, yours was still a convict when he married so easy to tell them apart.
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04-01-2008 9:34 AM #5A fountain of knowledge.
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This site http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes has heap of links to my man. I've emailed the archives for direction what to do next.
Thanks all for your help.
ps. He later went to sleep on the rail tracks after a few to many beers.
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William Mumford
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This may be of interest to you - William Mumford aged 73 years, died at Hobart December 1881, buried on the 31st December 1881 at Cornelian Bay cemetery. ref: Area pauper, section A, no. 358.
Barrie.
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06-01-2008 12:33 AM #7A fountain of knowledge.
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Could be the same man. Is there a Susan Mumford nee Shannon buried nearby? And where did you get the reference?
William John & Susan married 1843
Convicts applying for permission to marry
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5
Family Name (1) Given Names (1) Ship or Free (1) Family Name (2) Given Names (2) Ship or Free (2) Date CON Ref RGD Ref
MUMFORD William, Augusta Jessie, SHANNON, Susan, free, 00 APR 1843, CON52/2 p119, RGD37/3 : 1843/730
Census 1848
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10
Family Name Given Names Year District Reference Page
Mumford Susan, 1848, Hobart, CEN1/1/86, 215
thankyou Tassie for making this available.
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06-01-2008 2:32 AM #8A fountain of knowledge.
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Found the webpage thanks Barrie, however no Susan!
Would the cemetery records have any futher information? Eg, confirmation he was a convict, married to Susan, children etc..
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Tasmania death certificates do not record marital info and children until later on. I am not sure what his convict file would say, but they may confirm his death date.
Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899
Surname: MUNFORD
Given Names: WILLIAM
Event: Marriage
Father/Spouse Surname: SHANNON
Mother/Spouse Given Names: SUSAN
Day: 07
Month: 6
Year: 1843
Age: 22
Sex: M
Spouse Age: 23
Spouse Sex: F
Registration Place: HOBART
Registration Number: 730/1843
Reference: RGD 37
3 children's births registered (these should be on that web site too)
Surname: MONFORD
Given Names: JOHN
Event: Birth
Father/Spouse Surname: WILLIAM
Mother/Spouse Given Names: SHANNON SUSAN
Day: 17
Month: 6
Year: 1843
Sex: M
Registration Place: HOBART
Registration Number: 1495/1843
Reference: RGD 33
Surname: MUMFORD
Given Names: WILLIAM
Event: Death
Day: 30
Month: 12
Year: 1881
Age: 73
Sex: M
Registration Place: HOBART
Registration Number: 3543/1882
Reference: RGD 35
This is what you can expect to see on any BDM certificate in Australia and when.
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html
Surname: MUMFORD
Given Names: Name Not Recorded
Event: Birth
Father/Spouse Surname: WILLIAM
Mother/Spouse Given Names: SHANNON SUSAN
Day: 21
Month: 12
Year: 1845
Sex: F
Registration Place: HOBART
Registration Number: 1455/1846
Reference: RGD 33
Surname: MUMFORD
Given Names: WILLIAM
Event: Birth
Father/Spouse Surname: WILLIAM
Mother/Spouse Given Names: SHANNON SUSAN
Day: 01
Month: 10
Year: 1844
Sex: M
Registration Place: HOBART
Registration Number: 591/1844
Reference: RGD 33
There is no remarriage nor death for Susan up to 1899 - there is another index which I do not have.
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Cheers, I'm about 1 day ahead of you with that information. I was hoping that Susan was buried near him which would confirm that I have the right man.
I'll give the Tassie Archives another few days before I phone them for convict records.
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