Public house in Birmingham help please.

[SBSFamilyhistory]

My great grandfather was a Tavern Manager in 1901, the census shows the address as 128 Moseley street, Birmingham. This is still a pub, now the Hen and Chicken, not the sort of name I think it would have been called in 1901.

Any ideas how I start to get information about the name of the pub etc. family legend, I know I can hear you all sigh, says he died under a beer barrel. Sounds interesting but I don't know if this is true.


If there is anyone how is from Brum there is a chance, I know not very high, that they will know of the pub in question.

His name was William Henry Burrows, and no I am not expecting anyone to have known him, given I think he died in 1901.

thanks in anticiapation

Sue

[MarkJ]

Seems it is also called The Brewers Arms now.
It may be worth attempting to find out the brewery which owns the pub if it is a managed house - they usually keep records which may help, although of course pubs seem to change hands frequently.

[hughar]

According to a 1928-9 trade directory, it was called the Hen and Chickens then.

[jeeb]

Hi Sue,
His death is registered soon after the 1901 census was taken and as he was only 45 there is a good chance his death could have been accidental. If you send for his death certificate the cause of death should be given and will hopefully put that rumour to bed one way or another. Personally I think a pub manager is quite likely to have met his death under a beer barrel!

William Henry Burrows aged 45. Apr/Jun 1901 Vol 6c Page 277

Cheers Jeremy

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Hi Sue,
His death is registered soon after the 1901 census was taken and as he was only 45 there is a good chance his death could have been accidental. If you send for his death certificate the cause of death should be given and will hopefully put that rumour to bed one way or another. Personally I think a pub manager is quite likely to have met his death under a beer barrel!

William Henry Burrows aged 45. Apr/Jun 1901 Vol 6c Page 277

Cheers Jeremy

my grandfather, Joseph Henry was teetotal as a result. I cannot wait unti the 1911 census is available to see what happened to Elizabeth. The only one thing that concerns me is that my grandfather would have only been about tweleve when the 1901 census was completed and he does not show!

[jeeb]

my grandfather, Joseph Henry was teetotal as a result. I cannot wait unti the 1911 census is available to see what happened to Elizabeth. The only one thing that concerns me is that my grandfather would have only been about tweleve when the 1901 census was completed and he does not show!

Hi Sue,
There may be a problem here then. There is another William Henry Burrows, not a publican also in Birmingham, he has a wife Betsy (Elizabeth) and a son Joseph Henry born 1889 on 1891 & 1901 censuses.

Jeremy

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Hi Sue,
There may be a problem here then. There is another William Henry Burrows, not a publican also in Birmingham, he has a wife Betsy (Elizabeth) and a son Joseph Henry born 1889 on 1891 & 1901 censuses.

Jeremy

perhaps I will have to get my grandfathers birth certificate, if I can get the details to see if I can trace the address in 1889. The changces of them moving before the 1891 cenus is slim... oh well as they say lets wait and see. I will also see if I have anyone of Genes reunited who can help me with this. I will post more information when/if I get any.

Also as you say the occupation is incorrect. if the birth cert for Joseph or death cert for William shows nothing then I guess I will have to wait and see what the 1911 census show us... it's only three years after all!

[jeeb]

Hi Sue,
There are two Joseph Henry Burrows born within reasonable time scale.

Joseph Henry Burrows Jul/Sept 1888 West Bromwich vol 6b page 742

Joseph Henry Burrows Jan/Mar 1893 Birmingham vol 6d page 77


Do you know whether your grandfather had any siblings, if so what are their names?


Jeremy

[SBSFamilyhistory]

Hi Sue,

Do you know whether your grandfather had any siblings, if so what are their names?


Jeremy

sorry but given my grandfather died 20 years before I was born who knows? I will ask those who may or may not know.. lol speak soon

[jeeb]

sorry but given my grandfather died 20 years before I was born who knows? I will ask those who may or may not know.. lol speak soon

They would be your mother or father's uncles & aunts. Did you never hear mention of any?

Jeremy