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    Hi pejay,

    I agree, most frustrating!! I am also now wondering if there could have been another Owen Kelly in the 10th Foot..and possibly left after 1882??? It does seem highly unlikely that the one I found is not yours as so much points to Lincoln...along with being the right age and born in the right country.

    Still, I thought I might try having a shufty in the Discharge papers from 1883 onwards (the 1st Owen was in the box upto 1882).

    There were an awful lot of soldiers in the 10th Foot (!) so I suppose it's possible there was another one lurking in a different Battalion...unlikely, but possible

    I also have his pension entry to follow up so....hang on in there

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    Found the following on the Militia Attestations index

    Royal Garrison Artillery 1872-1915

    Owen Kelly birthplace St. George Dublin, Ireland, Militia Dublin, TNA ref W096/1333 sequence 165.

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    Hi, it is all very frustrating, I have no living relatives that can help me, I tried an Aunt - no luck, I tried my mother again, but no joy, Hi Julie - and thanks for your response , not sure what it means though, excuse me I think my brain must have dried up at the moment, sooner or later I am sure all will be revealed, and then hopefully I can put him and his family to sleep [for a very long time] and move onto something else. I have more Irish ancestors [sorry] I suspect they may well give me some grief, but that's another story.... I really appreciate all the help I can get, I am sure my grandmother Mary was born in 1883 in Ireland, how and where I do not know, and I know by 1891 he was working as a labourer in Lincoln. Kelly is a very common name, and I or a very long time] and move onto something else. I have more Irish ancestors [sorry] I suspect they may well give me some grief, but that's another story.... I really appreciate all the help I can get, I am sure my grandmother Mary was born in 1883 in Ireland, how and where I do not know, and I know by 1891 he was working as a labourer in Lincoln. Kelly is a very common name, and I agree there could have been another Owen Kelly in the 10th foot [lurking in the woodwork] waiting to confuse us all.
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    Hi pejay,

    I've had another look at all the other Owen Kelly's but none of them come anywhere near the first match. They are all much too young or have absolutely nothing to do with Lincoln or the 10th Foot.

    I also tried to follow through the 1st Owen's Chelsea Pension number but regrettably the records stop at number 94760 and his number was 94793!!!!
    How frustrating!!! I'm going to ask the "Experts" there on my next trip...

    I also spoke with my Military Mate who tells me one of his soldiers, positively identified by other info, appeared in the Married Establishment records but the name of his wife was wrong! Does this then look good that YOUR Owen might be the one we found with the wife's name incorrect? As I said, the name shown was Catherine and, after all, that was the name of his first child, wasn't it?? I also gave all Owen's details to my friend and he said he can't believe that it's not the correct one....

    If I don't get any joy on Owen's Pension number, the only way around this - a looooong route! - is to follow back this Owen's service and find out exactly where he was stationed at the time of your Owen's children's births...if he was in the right place at the right time for ALL their births, then I would feel very confident that it's the right man.

    What say you?
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    Hi SueL and many thanks for your help and persistance, in looking for this guy, who just does not want to be found , i really appreciate it. I wish I knew more about him, I do not know about his wife - and whether she had a middle name, but it does seem strange she called her first daughter Kate who was born about 1874 in Kent.John was the next born Aldershot about 1875/76.Patrick seems to vary from Welby, to warley,Worley? in Lincs and also Essex. my grandmother was definately born in Ireland about 1883, and they were back in Lincoln for the birth of Arthur 1885/86. why they were in Ireland I do not know, but they didn't stay for too long! I keep wondering where to go next, must put thinking cap on again - it may do do some good.!
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    Hiya Pejay.How are you progressing with your research ? We've communicated before on this subject.My Grandmother Gladys would've been your Mother's cousin-I think.Phil.

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    Hi there, not progressing at all at the moment, seem to be at stalemate, I keep trying though. One of these days I will go to Ireland for sightseeing and research but where to go? .... not exactly 100% on that.
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