I've been doing my research for about one year, so I guess I'm new enough to post of this forum. My question: How does one go about locating records after 1901? US census records are available to 1930. Will England be releasing the 1910 census anytime soon?
Thank you so much for any help.
Nadine
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02-11-2004 3:12 PM #1Settling in.
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02-11-2004 3:45 PM #2GeoffersGuest
[I've been doing my research for about one year, so I guess I'm new enough to post of this forum. My question: How does one go about locating records after 1901? US census records are available to 1930. Will England be releasing the 1910 census anytime soon?]
The 1911 census for the UK should be released when it is 100 years old; so you should be able to gain access from 1st Jan 2012. Many other records are available for more modern research, such as directories (many excellent examples produced by Archive CDbooks); wills; birth, marriage and death certificates; records relating to military service; telephone directories; newspapers; living relatives, etc, etc.
There's loads of stuff out there - are you stuck with a particular problem on which someone may be able to give advice? Are you working backwards in time, or trying to trace modern descendents? If you're not sure how to go about things, just say what you know so far and what you want to find out and I'm sure you'll get some help.
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I'm attempting to trace modern descendents. I know I had descendents in London, England in 1960. I've found the names of most of those I'm seeking from the 1901 Census, but I'm stuck as to how to go about finding when or who they married, when they died, etc.
I have Ancestry and was going to try a new site that you pay per view, but haven't done so yet. I'm a bit confused as to how to verify I have the correct person on this site before ordering incorrect certificates. I've done that, been there. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
2012 is a long time to wait! I was also wondering why the US has released the census for 1930 and England won't. Just curious.
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NadineLast edited by Guest; 19-08-2007 at 11:29 PM.
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02-11-2004 7:22 PM #4Guy EtchellsGuest
The facts about the 1911 census are simple.
Under the present laws of the land (Public Records Act 1958) the 1911 census should have been released in 1958 as it was then over 30 years old and had not been mentioned in a Lord Chancellors Instrument.
Recently it has been made clear that the 1911 census will not under any circumstances message=The facts about the 1911 census are simple.
Under the present laws of the land (Public Records Act 1958) the 1911 census should have been released in 1958 as it was then over 30 years old and had not been mentioned in a Lord Chancellors Instrument.
Recently it has been made clear that the 1911 census will not under any circumstances be released until the first day of 2012.
This is simple politics as no assurances were given on 100 year confidentiality until the 1981 census, but that is life.
The Births and Deaths Act allow registers held by the local registrar to be searched and the courts have ruled that transcripts may be taken from them by individuals but unfortunately since 1972 (after 135 years of access) many registrars have been refusing to allow this.
It is always more difficult to proceed forward in time rather than backwards but you could try electoral rolls, wills, parish registers, newspapers & school magazines as an alternative to civil registers.
Cheers
Guy
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Guy,
Thank you so much for your explanation regarding the 1911 census. Rules, are rules; hope I live until at least the second day of 2012! As a side note, I was able to find four of my US cousins using the 1930 US census and they were thrilled that I had found them. If not for having that census available I would have forever lost them!
On another note, and not meaning to sound to "stupid", but how would I go about finding wills, parish registers, newspapers & school magazines into the twenty-first century? Are there CD's available? Whenever I enter a date past 1900, I usually get results for the 1800's.
As you said, "It is always more difficult to proceed forward in time rather than backwards", that is sure true!
Thank you so very much for your time in answering my questions.
Nadine
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02-11-2004 11:16 PM #6GeoffersGuest
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[I'm attempting to trace modern descendents. I know I had descendents in London, England in 1960. I've found the names of most of those I'm seeking from the 1901 Census, but I'm stuck as to how to go about finding when or who they married, when they died, etc.]
This can be a long process - by referring to London, England do I take it you are not in the UK? If so, then some sources may be more difficult to access, depending on where you live. I know you mention 1960, but let me start a little earlier to give you an idea of what you can do.....
So, you know someone who was alive in the 1901 census. Let's suppose it's a male and he's married, aged 23 with a son aged 2. First check the CWGC website to see if he died in WW1 http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
Suppose he didn't die - you can check the GRO index of deaths, trying to find him. The age at death is given in the index which should tie up with the age on the 1901 census. The GRO index is available online on a pay-per-view site 1837 online You can check this death entry against the annual index of wills, produced since 1858. This index gives more information - name, date and place of death, often a residence, names of executors, value of estate. When you find a reference, you can apply for a copy of the will from
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The Probate Regsitry in York [/size][/font]http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/cms/3800.htm gives some information to assist. The will may mention names of beneficiaries, their relationship and sometimes an address - all usefis name. After sometime around 1917, the surname of the bride is included in the index, which helps a little. Also from about the same tim with the age on the 1901 census. The GRO index is available online on a pay-per-view site 1837 online [/color][/size][/font][/url][font=Book Antiqua][size=2] You can check this death entry against the annual index of wills, produced since 1858. This index gives more information - name, date and place of death, often a residence, names of executors, value of estate. When you find a reference, you can apply for a copy of the will from
Most counties have online lists of surnames being researched - again, this is worth a try, you might strike lucky.
[I was also wondering why the US has released the census for 1930 and England won't.]
We're a different country with different rules and Laws.
Geoffers
Charlbury, OxfordshireLast edited by Guest; 12-10-2007 at 11:22 AM. Reason: duplicated text
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02-11-2004 11:32 PM #7Guy EtchellsGuest
Unfortunately most sources for modern research are not online and therefore you have to visit various archives and offices, libraries etc.
It might be helpful to browse the national Archives research guides catalogue at
http:message=Unfortunately most sources for modern research are not online and therefore you have to visit various archives and offices, libraries etc.
It might be helpful to browse the national Archives research guides catalogue at
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchive...desindex.asp#w
Newspapers and School magazines are often found in the local studies library of the relevant town, if you can visit London the newspaper library at Colindale is worth a visit.
British Library Newspapers, Colindale Avenue, London, NW9 5HE
Also The British Library, Boston Spa, Wetherby, West Yorkshire, LS23 7BQ
Current parish registers are held by the vicar of the parish church and may be viewed. There is a search fee involved, this can be quite expensive but it is often possible to view microfiche copies of the registers at the County Record Office.
Depending on what registers have been filmed these may take you as far as the 1990s
Cheers
Guy
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The easiest way to find living descendants of your forebears - put your own information on the internet - then let them find you!
Suggest you join genesconnected. I posted a small part of my tree there, and gained 2 new cousins.
Or your ISP will probably provide space for a website. Again, keep it simple. Add a few pictures for interest. And cloak your email address (it's easy to do). You may be surprised how quickly you get a result.
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I've posted a number of messages recently on GenesReunited plugging this site... but, on this occasion, if you're not already registered with them it may be worth giving GR a go. They have a 'Trying To Find' message board, which I and others have had some success with...
Alternatively, have you tried simply Googling the name of your 1960 relative? It's sometimes amazing what, or rather who, you can find!!
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Thank you everyone for all of your great ideas and help! What a great forum. I live in California, and would very much like to visit England, but I "can't" or "won't" fly! So it's either a boat, or the internet.
I plan on joining 1837 website. That's the one I've been thinking about, but just haven't done it yet. I didn't know about all the other sites and will follow thru on all of them. Can you tell me how to join GenesReunited or Genesconnected? Are they the same?
Thank you so much. I'll let you and the forum know if I have success.
Nadine
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