Passengers on Troop Ships - 1884

[bert henderson]

My grandfather Henry HENDERSON No. 1545 was in the 65th Regiment of Foot (1st BN Yorks & Lancs) for six years, leaving to Army Reserve 20th June 1884(from the Muster Book in Kew).
In Feb 1884 the Regiment left Aden to return home on HMS Serapis, was diverted to Suakin to fight the Mahdi's forces. They arrived in UK in March.
I have tried to find which document gives the lists of Soldiers actually embarked on a troopship to establish whether Henry was actually with the regiment or in the depot at Sheffield!
I couldn't find his Service Record, Attestation papers or Regimental Diaries.
Please Help !

[Terry Reeves]

Bert

If you havn't done so all ready, you should consult the Muster Books and Pay Lists for the battalion at the National Archive:

WO16/1907 - covering February-March 1884

WO16/1908 - covering 1884-1886

These should confirm his prescence or otherwise.

Terry Reeves

[bert henderson]

Terry,
thank you for that, I found WO16/1908 and an entry for my Grandfather. At the time I was happy to find evidence of his being in the regiment.
I don't remember seeing any indication of where the regiment actually was , but then I wasn't looking for it. Do the Muster Books include such information?

Regards
Bert

[dannywh]

My GGrandfather John HALL 2449 was same regiment/time. Did you get any further? Regards Danny

[bert henderson]

Danny,
I did find the Regimental Muster Book WO16\1907 which shows that my Grandfather was on the roll and being paid, with a few other clues to where they were:
'en route - Aden to the Soudan thence to England'
'Soudan gratuity charged'
' Pay - Officers and OR rations aboard ship'
Also, the men whose pay stopped when they died in the two battles at El-Teb on the 29th Feb and Tammai on the 1st March.
Have you found much about your g.g.grandfather?

Regards
Bert Henderson

[dannywh]

Hello Bert,

So sorry for the "delay" in replying (!) I haven't seen this message until today.

I'm in the same boat as you were. Can't find GGrandfather John HALLs(929)Attestation papers, although I have got Grandfather (John HALL 2449). They were in the Regiment at the same time for a period although different companies. JH929 I found in the Discharge to Chelsea Pension ledger (don't have the WO ref any-more) which gave me some details. I need his attestation papers to track back on his parents. He enlisted Birr in 1861 and went straight out to NZ I think. I am trying to establish that through the Muster records but being in Sweden......
I also think that there may have been other siblings in the 65th at the same time and possibly the father as well (Yes, John HALL born c 1801!).