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  1. #11
    Cary Christopher
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    Resending the results because the parsing function on this website absolutely destroys the integrity of the research:

    Hi John,

    Let me show you what I've found on your family in the censuses and civil registration. Millwall, a small section of London keeps reoccurring in records. It is only a small parish in London that had just over 5,000 people in 1887:

    1901 England census
    Kent, Milton next Sittingbourne
    District 29, page 23
    78 William Street

    William Brain Head Marr'd 30 Machinist (?) in Paper Mill, born London Millwall (according to 1887 gazetteer, this is in Poplar parish, London, but it might be in either Poplar or St. Luke registration district)
    Elsie A. " Wife Marr'd 29 Born Kent Plumsted (actually Plumstead in Kent, Greater London area. Civil registration district was originally at Plumstead but transferred to Woolwich in 1868)
    William " Son 7 Kent, Milton (comment reads, "Deaf and dumb from birth")
    Dorothy E. " Dau 2 Kent, Milton
    Elsie E. " Dau 4 Ditto, Ditto
    Edward " Son 5 Ditto, Ditto

    ==================

    The 1901 census also has another family living in Milton and their adult children are also all born in Millwall, London. In fact, they are the only others mentioned as being born in Millwall so they're probably connected:

    1901 England census
    Kent, Milton next Sittingbourne
    District 29, page 32
    86 William Street

    Isaac Brain Head Marr'd 75 Stationary engine driver, (born) Worcestershire, Dudley
    Elizabeth C. (or G) Brain Wife Marr'd 63 (born) Essex, Plaistow
    Mary A. " Dau Single 33 Dressmaker, (born) London, Millwall
    C0A1901 England census
    Kent, Milton next Sittingbourne
    District 29, page 23
    78 William Street

    William Brain Head Marr'd 30 Machinist (?) in Paper Mill, born London Millwall (according to 1887 gazetteer, this is in Poplar parish, London, but it might be in either Poplar or St. Luke registration district)
    Elsie A. " Wife Marr'd 29 Born Kent Plumsted (actually Plumstead in Kent, Greater London area. Civil registration district was originally at Plumstead but transferred to Woolwich in 1868)
    William " Son 7 Kent, Milton (comment reads, "Deaf and dumb from birth")
    Dorothy E. " Dau 2 Kent, Milton
    Elsie E. " Dau 4 Ditto, Ditto
    Edward " Son 5 Ditto, Ditto

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    The 1901 census also has another family living in Milton and their adult children are also all born in Millwall, London. In fact, they are the only others mentioned as being born in Millwall so they're probably connected:

    1901 England census
    Kent, Milton next Sittingbourne
    District 29, page 32
    86 William Street

    Isaac Brain Head Marr'd 75 Stationary engine driver, (born) Worcestershire, Dudley
    Elizabeth C. (or G) Brain Wife Marr'd 63 (born) Essex, Plaistow
    Mary A. " Dau Single 33 Dressmaker, (born) London, Millwall
    Charlotte " Dau Single 28 Dressmaker (28according to 1887 gazetteer, this is in Poplar parish, London, but it might be in either Poplar or St. Luke registration district)
    Elsie A. " Wife Marr'd 29 Born Kent Plumsted (actually Plumstead in Kent, Greater London area. Civil registration district was originally at Plumstead but transferred to Woolwich in 1868)
    William " Son 7 Kent, Milton (comment reads, "Deaf and dumb from birth")
    Dorothy E. " Dau 2 Kent, Milton
    Elsie E. " Dau 4 Ditto, Ditto
    Edward " Son 5 Ditto, Ditto

    ==================

    Here is William Brain from the 1891 census:

    1891 England census
    Essex County, West Thurrlock
    District 9, page 3
    6 Portland Place

    William Brain Boarder Single 20 Papermaker Dryerman, (born) London, Millwall (living with the family of George & Eliza Cranmer whose occupation was "Stationary engine driver")

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    Here is the family of Isaac & Elizabeth Brain from the 1891 census:

    1891 England census
    Kent County, Sittingbourne
    District 36, page 32
    16 Terrace Road

    Isaac Brain Head Marr'd 65 Engineer Worcestershire, Dudley
    Elizabeth " Wife Marr'd 53 Essex, Plaistow
    Mary A. " Dau Single 23 Dressmaharlotte " Dau Single 28 Dressmaker (28according to 1887 gazetteer, this is in Poplar parish, London, but it might be in either Poplar or St. Luke registration district)
    Elsie A. " Wife Marr'd 29 Born Kent Plumsted (actually Plumstead in Kent, Greater London area. Civil registration district was originally at Plumstead but transferred to Woolwich in 1868)
    William " Son 7 Kent, Milton (comment reads, "Deaf and dumb from birth")
    Dorothy E. " Dau 2 Kent, Milton
    Elsie E. " Dau 4 Ditto, Ditto
    Edward " Son 5 Ditto, Ditto

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    Here is William Brain from the 1891 census:

    1891 England census
    Essex County, West Thurrlock
    District 9, page 3
    6 Portland Place

    William Brain Boarder Single 20 Papermaker Dryerman, (born) London, Millwall (living with the family of George & Eliza Cranmer whose occupation was "Stationary engine driver")

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    Here is the family of Isaac & Elizabeth Brain from the 1891 census:

    1891 England census
    Kent County, Sittingbourne
    District 36, page 32
    16 Terrace Road

    Isaac Brain Head Marr'd 65 Engineer Worcestershire, Dudley
    Elizabeth " Wife Marr'd 53 Essex, Plaistow
    Mary A. " Dau Single 23 Dressmaker London
    Edward " Son Single 22 Papermaker Ditto
    Charlotte " Dau Single 18 Dressmaker Ditto
    Isaac " Son Single 16 Blacksmith's apprentice Ditto
    Sarah " Dau Single 13 Ditto
    Joseph " Son Single 11 (born) Kent Sittingbourne

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    In my next email, I will show the entire family together in the 1881 census.

    Cary C.

  2. #12
    Cary Christopher
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    Hi John,

    Here is the entire family together in the 1881 census:

    1881 England census
    Kent County, Sittingbourne
    District 36, page 18
    18 Harold Road

    Isaac Brain Head Marr 51 Engine Driver paper mill, (born) Worcestershire, Dudley
    Elizabeth " Wife Marr 42 (born) Essex, Plaistow
    Mary A. " Dau 13 Scholar Middlesex, Millwall
    Edward " Son 12 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    William " Son 10 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Charlotte " Dau 8 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Sarah " Dau 4 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Joseph " Son 1 (born) Kent, Sittingbourne

    =====================

    It took me over an hour, but I finally found them in the 1871 census:

    1871 England census
    Middlesex, London, Poplar
    District 33, page 20
    11 Maria Street

    Isach (sic) Brain Head Marr 44 Engine fitter, (born) Dudley, Worc.
    Eliz. " Wife Marr 33 (born) Essex
    Mary J. (or T) " Dau Unmarr 10 (born) Stafford(shire)
    Harriet " Dau 8 (born) Ditto
    Mary Ann " Dau 3 (born) Poplar
    Edw. " Son 2 (born) Poplar
    William " Son 2 mths (born) Poplar

    =================

    Here they are in the 1861 census:

    1861 England census
    Middlesex, Poplar All Saints
    District 35, page 28
    15 Claude Street

    Isaac Brain Head Marr 34 (no occ listed), (born) Worcester, Dudley
    Harriett " Wife Marr 24 (born) Staffordshire, Tipton (must be his first wife)
    Mary T. " Dau 6 mos. (born) Middl. PoplMary A. " Dau 13 Scholar Middlesex, Millwall
    Edward " Son 12 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    William " llwall
    Edward " Son 12 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    William " Son 10 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Charlotte " Dau 8 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Sarah " Dau 4 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Joseph " Son 1 (born) Kent, Sittingbourne

    =====================

    It took me over an hour, but I finally found them in the 1871 census:

    1871 England census
    Middlesex, London, Poplar
    District 33, page 20
    11 Maria Street

    Isach (sic) Brain Head Marr 44 Engine fitter, (born) Dudley, Worc.
    Eliz. " Wife Marr 33 (born) Essex
    Mary J. (or T) " Dau Unmarr 10 (born) Stafford(shire)
    Harriet " Dau 8 (born) Ditto
    Mary Ann " Dau 3 (born) Poplar
    Edw. " Son 2 (born) Poplar
    William " Son 2 mths (born) Poplar

    =================

    Here they are in the 1861 census:

    1861 England census
    Middlesex, Poplar All Saints
    District 35, page 28
    15 Claude Street

    Isaac Brain Head Marr 34 (no occ listed), (born) Worcester, Dudley
    Harriett " Wife Marr 24 (born) Staffordshire, Tipton (must be his first wife)
    Mary T. " Dau 6 mos. (born) Middl. PoplMary A. " Dau 13 Scholar Middlesex, Millwall
    Edward " Son 12 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    William " Son 10 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Charlotte " Dau 8 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Sarah " Dau 4 Ditto Ditto, Ditto
    Joseph " Son 1 (born) Kent, Sittingbourne

    =====================


    =================

    William Brain's birth is recorded in 1871:

    1871
    Jan-Mar (1st quarter)
    Poplar, London, Middlesex
    Volume 1C, page 759

    Obtaining this record will provide the maiden name of his wife and allow you to order their marriage record.

    More later.

    Cary C.

  3. #13
    Cary Christopher
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    1851 England census
    Staffordshire, Sedgley
    District 40, page 10
    Address: Parkes Lands Prince's End

    Isaac Brain Head Marr 54 Colliery agent (born) Gloucestershire, Camden

    Sarah " Wife Marr 58 (born) Worcestershire, Old Swinford

    William " Son Unmarr 29 Engine worker, (born) Worcestershire, Old Swinford

    Isaac " Son Unmarr 25 (Occ) Ditto, (born) Worcestershire, Dudley

    Charlotte " Dau Unmarr 19 (no occ), (born) Worcestershire, Dudley

    Joseph " Son Unmarr 17 Apprentice carpenter, (born) Staffordshire, Sedgley

    ===============

    1841 England census (remember, all adult ages are rounded to the nearest five (40, 35, 30, etc.)
    Staffordshire, Sedgley
    District 32, page 17
    Place: Willingsworth

    Isaac Brain 40 agent
    Sarah Brain 45
    William Brain 19
    Phoebe " 17
    Isaac " 15
    Edward " 14
    Sarah " 12
    Charlotte " 10
    Joseph Brain 7

    ======================

    Cary C.

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