samuel jackson - darlaston

[pejay]

can someone help. I am looking for details of this person and his ancestors, he was born in june 1878, his parents were a mary and a thomas also born in darlaston in 1856 his parents were another thomas born in sutton coldfield? and a betsy. samuel moved to lincoln and settled there. any help appreciated

[uksearch]

If you have any Census details can you post them?

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[pejay]

hi and thankyou for replying, i have census details but not very good at attaching so will type them in 1851 - sutton coldfield - thomas jackson age 22 farm labourer or farm servant 1861 - darlaston - thomas jackson age 29 gun lock filer, betsy wife 28, george, thomas & william ages 8, 5, & 8mnths. 1871 - thomas jackson age 39, wife betsy 38, george son 18, thomas 15 son, william son 10, sarah daug 7, alfred and joseoh sons 5 & 3, angelina daug 3 m, samuel brother 44. 1881 - loads of people here lin the one house -
thomas 49, betsy 49, sarah daug 18, alfred 16 son, joseph 13 son, angelina daug 10, martha daug 8.
thomas age 25, mary wife, edith daug 4, samuel son 2, and martha daug 6mnths. in the 1891 census some of family are in gainsborough, lincs - thomas head & mary wife and children edith, samuel, alice, william, lily, rachel. mary and gertrude from 14 yrs - 8mnths. 1901 lincoln,samuel head, wife ethel. rachel,mary,alice and gertrude - sisters.not sure what happened to thomas and mary whether they died or stayed in gainsborough, i hope this all makes sense, , the first thomas - born in sutton coldfield would i have to look in parish records for details about him?

[uksearch]

It makes life easier if you quote the piece numbers . Can you do this for the 1851 and 1861 returns? For Thomas (born in Sutton Coldfield) beside the PRs you can look for him in the 1841 returns.


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[pejay]

hi there, many thanks for replying to my query, is the piece no and the reference no the same? i have some no for the census for 1851 not sure if it is the right one, it is - HO 107/2062 folio 426 page 10, and for the 1861 census it is RG9/2010 folio 37 page 16, i have not seen an 1841 census for staffordshire yet, could you please tell me how to get any parish records? for sutton coldfield i get a bit lost before 1837.

[uksearch]

It is not possible from the 1851 & 1861 returns to determine if this is the same man. I would not worry too much about the age but I'm not sure how skilled you have to be a gun lock filer. PRs should be available at the county records office; a local family history group; LDS Temple or the Central Library.


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[pejay]

hi and thanks for your reply, i am not sure if a gun lock filer was a craft or not. he did start out as a servant, but i guess it must have had something going for it,as he seemed to stick at it. maybe the pay was good!! thanks for the info about parish records

[Wirral]

From the 1841 census HO107/1128/7 folio 9 page 10, Redicap Heath, Sutton Coldfield, Warwickshire.

All surname Jackson, all born in the county, ages 15+ rounded down to nearest 5 years.
George 40 Ag lab
Mary 35
Sarah 20
George 15 Wire drawer J. [journeyman]
John 15 Wire drawer J.
Samuel 13
Thomas 9
Joseph 3
Mary 11
Phebe 6

[Wirral]

Some of the children of this family are listed on the IGI, including Joseph christened 8 March 1838. FreeBMD lists the birth of a Joseph Jackson, March quarter 1838, Aston volume 16 page 193. Aston registration district covers Sutton Coldfield.

The IGI also lists the marriage of George Jackson & Mary Jones.

[pejay]

hi and many thanks for your help, i will look on the igi site and free bmd too,
it helps me to get back a littlle bit further with this family. what would a wire drawer j be though?