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Just found him in the Australian Dictionary of Biography. Seems like a 'fair dinkum' bloke - unless there's more

Colin

Hi Sue, I'm having fun, are you and the others?

What's the scoop on William Cox?

Colin

Sorry for the typo. -- but now see you found him.

Colin

Exactly.

His marriage to Elizabeth Burnsides was in order[apart from the name change]. I presume that the situation for her was alittle difficult and she sought solace with Nixon who was a 'free...

I understand the references above, but this is still puzzling.

Here follows what I have on Richard:
1] He arrived in Australia April 1819 after being convicted on 20 July 1818. The ship was the...

At present, I just don't know.

Richard Bottington was transported and arrived in April 1819. The above states that he was granted permission to marry Mary Gorman age 21 on 11 February 1826.

A...

Even those from 185+ years ago.:cheers2:

Well - I never did!!! What a heck of a mess. Kinda puts the 'Cat amongst the pigeons' and dispels some ideas that have been put forth.

Wonder what else we [primarily Australian's] will discover...

Under Thread Tools in the Banner one can read a version of a thread and print it.

As this thread is now running to 10 pages, rather than print the whole again, I want to just print the additions. ...

Hi - thanks again. I did miss your post #27. Again I'm having problems with the small print.

Thanks

Colin

I tried enlarging the text but it became blurry - can you tell me what it said about the couple?
Thanks

Colin

The 1841 census, while it only lists the name of the head of house, states there were 7 occupants - 5 males and 2 females. Trying to work out who they all were.

Colin

Further to my introductory post, I wish to correct the details of Samuel and Ellen's children at the time of Ellen's death.

In total they had 6 children. 3 had died prior to Ellen's 'accidental...

Hi lawsue.
I obviously missed this response yesterday.

How do I access this record - my sub. is on Ancestry - and it does not appear as such in their Card Catalogue?

Colin

I am attempting to make contact with the tree owner who resides in Sydney. Will keep you informed.

Colin

Hello Tony.

Thanks for your input in post 22. Along with the input of lawsue earlier, a picture is starting to develop - but is still blinkin' fuzzy!!.

1] We know Elizabeth Burnside(s) married...

You are correct. I have looked at the Bottington-Gorman situation. Both were convicts. Definitely not my connection - sorry for the error!! :blush2:

Colin

Only just now come online and appreciate posts 17 - 20. A lot to think about. I also think that just maybe there are still 2 Elizabeths's - one he never married as she was still legally married to...

To a certain extent, I was starting to think along the same lines - but - an Elizabeth Burnside married another convict by the name of John Bottington 10 July 1821 and then married Thomas in 1825. ...

Have just found something else - New South Wales Australia, Police Gazettes 1854-1930:
"Prisoners to be discharged Free - Return of Prisoners from H.M. gaol, Darlinghurst during the month of March...

If this is him, then the 2 years would be up 6 June 1858 and then he was broke and lost his Tailoring business.

Colin

Could this explain why, in the New South Wales Australia Police Gazettes 1854-1930 I found the following entry [B"]Return of Prisoners discharged from H.M. gaol, Parramatta, week ending 6 June...

Thanks lawsue.

So, he was given his Freedom 31 March 1825. Could the birth of a child [with Elizabeth] in 1827 without permission or marriage result in the revoking of the original Certificate...

I am having a wee bit of trouble with Thomas.

I know that he was sentenced to 7 years Transportation, but the Certificate of Freedom wasn't granted until 1829 almost 10 years after he arrived....

Yes, Megan, and am slowly making my way.

I have found the 3 children that were with Ellen when she died - Ellen [born 1841], Jane [born 1843] and John H. [born 1845]. There were 2 others that died...