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Mandie
20-10-2005, 3:10 PM
Would paupers or people living with reduced means still have their deaths registered? I ask because one, pesky, ancestor is in the parish records as having been buried in 1892 but I cannot find her in the BMD indexes on various sites.

I had thought that if a birth, marriage or death occurred after 1875 then it had to be registered - or am I having a delusion about that?

Geoffers
20-10-2005, 3:47 PM
Would paupers or people living with reduced means still have their deaths registered? I ask because one, pesky, ancestor is in the parish records as having been buried in 1892 but I cannot find her in the BMD indexes on various sites.
Her death should be registered - what's her name? Have you tried under possible variant spellings?

Geoffers

Guy Etchells
20-10-2005, 5:58 PM
The death should be registered but remember deaths are registered in the district the person died.
Was your ancestor living in a workhouse outside her parish of burial?
Cheers
Guy

jeeb
20-10-2005, 6:31 PM
I had thought that if a birth, marriage or death occurred after 1875 then it had to be registered - or am I having a delusion about that?

Hi Mandie,
Civil registration began in July 1837 but it was not enforced by law until 1875 and was a requirement of everybody irrevelant of their social standing. However it would seem a great many people escaped the net one way or another and I have several instances when I have never found a BMD including my own Grandfather who died in 1960. He doesn't appear in the actual death registers nor on any index that I have searched.

Mandie
20-10-2005, 7:41 PM
Have you tried under possible variant spellings?

Found her under the HELLESDON variation of Helsdon - the only one I didn't try having searched with Helsdon, Helsden, Elsdon, Elsden, Hellsden, Hellsdon, Burroughs (her maiden name), Burroughes and Boughrows:

Hellesdon, Charlotte
Record Type: Deaths
Age at death: 80
Quarter: December
Year: 1892
District: Smallburgh
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 39

Proof that I should have widened my search terms and not used familyrelatives.org since it has no flexibility in the surname parameters. Ancestry's piggybacking of FreeBMD found it, since FreeBMD was seemingly under a lot of server strain.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

Mandie
20-10-2005, 7:44 PM
However it would seem a great many people escaped the net one way or another and I have several instances when I have never found a BMD including my own Grandfather who died in 1960. He doesn't appear in the actual death registers nor on any index that I have searched.

That seems a very recent timescale to still be missing people out. Maybe you should post his details and perhaps we can all have a go at finding him.