Watson and Cooper

[scooby]

Hiya everybody

Can anyone help me further this please.

Grace Lilian WATSON married Ernest Thornton 1925.
I believe Grace's father was William. But this is as far as I have got.

Margaret COOPER married Edward Thornton 1900????
Believe Margaret had a brother William and her Father was called Thomas.

I just cannot find anything.

Thanks

Scooby :)

[Trish]

...Margaret COOPER married Edward Thornton 1900????
Believe Margaret had a brother William and her Father was called Thomas...Wow! You're giving us some tough challenges, aren't you?

There's this record on the civil registration index for England and Wales:

Marriage: December Qtr 1889 Chester
COOPER, Margaret
THORNTON, Edward

Volume 8a Page 639

And, in the 1901 census, the following:

Address: Great Sanghall*, Cheshire
Edward THORNTON Head 37 ?Carter [word obscured by other markings] on farm born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Margaret THORNTON Wife 36 born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Edith THORNTON Dau 10 Scholar born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Edward THORNTON Son 8 Scholar born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Ernest THORNTON Son 6 born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Herbert THORNTON Son 4 born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Elinor M. THORNTON Daur 2 born Cheshire, Sanghall*
Henry THORNTON Son 1 born Cheshire, Sanghall*
William COOPER Boarder [Single] 40 Plate Layer - Railway born Cheshire, Sanghall*

*transcribed as Sanghall but probably correctly spelled Saughall.

And at the post office nearby, there are more COOPERs:

Address: Post Office, Cheshire
John T. WHALEY Head 44 Baker/Shopkeeper with wife and 4 children
Ellen COOPER Servant 15 Domestic born Gt Sanghall

Address: Post Office, Cheshire
George COOPER Head 58 General Labourer born Gt Sanghall Chester
Sarah COOPER Wife 60 born Gt Sanghall Chester

Reference: RG13/3376 Folio 150 Page 20, 21

HTH,
Trish

[Trish]

The THORNTONs in 1891:

Address: Orchard View, Gt. Saughall
Edward [mistranscribed as Edwin] THORNTON Head 27 Agricultural Labourer born Gt Saughall Cheshire
Margaret THORNTON Wife 26 born Gt Saughall Cheshire
Edith THORNTON Daur 7 mths born Gt Saughall Cheshire
William COOPER Boarder [Single] 29 Platelayer born Gt Saughall Cheshire

Reference: RG12/2868 Folio 54 Page 14

Trish

[Trish]

Possible match for your Margaret COOPER in 1871:

Address: Village, Gt. Sangall, Cheshire
Thomas COOPER Head 32 Ag Lab born Cheshire Gt. Saughall
Ann COOPER Wife 33 Domestic Duties born Flintshire Hope
William COOPER Son 10 born Cheshire Gt. Saughall
Sarah COOPER Daur 8 born Cheshire Gt. Saughall
Margaret COOPER Daur 6 born Cheshire Gt. Saughall
Charles COOPER Son 2 born Cheshire Gt. Saughall

Reference: RG10/3733 Folio 110 Page 13

Trish

[Trish]

Possible match for Thomas COOPER in 1861:

Address: Shotwick, Cheshire
William COOPER Head 44 Gardener born Hawarden Flintshire
Mary COOPER Wife 33 born Hope Flintshire
Thomas COOPER Son 22 Ag Labourer born Gt Saughall Cheshire
George COOPER Son 18 Ag Labourer born Gt Saughall Cheshire
Margaret COOPER Daur 13 Scholar born Gt Saughall Cheshire
Thomas COOPER Grandson 3 Scholar born Gt Saughall Cheshire
Sarah COOPER Daur 2 Scholar born Gt Saughall Cheshire

Reference: RG9/2633 Folio 13 Page 10

Misc. comments: Judging by her age, Mary must have been William's second wife and stepmother to his older children. As for the grandson, young Thomas, it's not apparent from the census image if the elder Thomas or George could be his father. Both young Thomas and Sarah are listed as scholars even though they are only 3 and 2 respectively.

Trish

[scooby]

Hiya Trish

I didnt think anyone would be able to help me out on the Cooper pickle lol.
You are dam good at this arent you.

Thank you for this informtion, itwill help me get past my block and hopefully carry on.

Thanks Sharon :)

P.S if you think the cooper side was a challenge, I can get nothing on WATSON lol

[Trish]

...P.S if you think the cooper side was a challenge, I can get nothing on WATSON lol...You're very welcome, Sharon. In regard to your WATSONs...

There are a few birth records for Grace WATSON in and around Cheshire, any of which may be a match for you:

Birth:March Quarter 1904 Market Drayton Cheshire Shropshire Staffordshire
WATSON, Grace Lilian
Reference: Volume 6a Page 720

Birth:December Quarter 1892 Stockport Cheshire Lancashire
WATSON, Grace
Reference: Volume 8a Page 28

Birth:June Quarter 1897 Birkenhead Cheshire Merseyside
WATSON, Grace
Reference: Volume 8a Page 570

Birth:September Quarter 1901 Birkenhead Cheshire Merseyside
WATSON, Grace
Reference: Volume 8a Page 505

Do any of these look likely?

Trish

[scooby]

Hiya Trish

Just looked at the info you left me,

Birth:March Quarter 1904 Market Drayton Cheshire Shropshire Staffordshire
WATSON, Grace Lilian

This is or was my Gran,

Its funny how you dont think you know something untill you see it in front of you.

Thanks
Sharon