Hearne Family Chesham and other area's

[nightingale]

Hi
I'm researching my Hearne family (all spell) some of which came from the Bucks area, Chesham, Lee, Wendover, are some of the places I believe they came from or at the very least travelled though, any help would be most appreciated, I have hit a brick wall with my own G.Grandfather Solomon Hearn I know he married Eliza Franklin and that his first son Job my Grandfather was born in London in 1869 but I can't tie Solomon up with all those Hearns that must be some of his extended family from Herts and Bucks. I really need to find out which one was Solomon's father.

Any help even a small brick taken out of the wall would be appreciated

Thanks
Pat

[busyglen]

Pat, could this be any relation?

1851 Census
Penn Pt.3
Piece 1717, Folio 619, Schedule 0066
Jesse Berry Hill

HEARNE, Solomon, head, m, 50, chair matter, b. Hawbery, HRT
HEARNE, Mercy, wife, m, 55, b. Saratt, HRT
HEARNE, Dorcas, daur, u, 26, b. Ruislip, MDX
HEARNE, John, son, u, 24, basket matter (twin) b. Bovingdon, HRT
HEARNE, Edmund, son, u, 24, basket maker, (twin) b.Bovingdon, HRT
HEARNE, Catherine, daur, u, 20, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARNE, Rhyle, son, u, 16, tin worker, b. Chesham, BKM

I wasn't sure when the Solomon you mentioned was born and wondered if this was his parents and he wasn't at home? Just a thought.

There are quite a few Hearne/Herne's (about 110) but if you have any further clues, I will try and look for you.

Incidentally, there is another family that have biblical family names, possibly another avenue to look at?

Glenys

[nightingale]

Hi Glenys,

What can I say but a huge thank you, I have only the 1861 referance to Solomon and Mercy, and I thought that this may be where my Soloman belongs but from these other children I might just get a lead to see if I'm right, I do know from the IGI that they had another son Royal who I notice is also absent on that night. so this will help me no end. thanks again.

I would be very interested if it's possible in the other family with the biblical names as my own mother told me that many of the family names came from the bible hence my own Grandfathers name of Job!

Once again thank you
best regards Pat

[jeeb]

Hi Pat,
I noticed your reply to Glenys and said you were interested in the biblical names in the family, in that case I think you will be interested in this 1871 census entry:-

RG10/1659 Folio 14 Page 4
Cold Blows, North Benfleet, Essex
Solomon Hearne Head 38 Ag, Lab Born Essex Great Baddow
Eliza Hearne wife 26 Born Chelmsford
Albert Hearne Son 5 Born Wickford
Moses Hearne Son 2mths Born North Benfleet

There are 3 lodgers with them Abraham Ager 65, Walter Gibbons 42 & David Cherry 22

I had wondered if this was Job's parents as there is a gap inbetween the two sons allowing for a birth in 1869 but if they are, where is Job and they are not in London? Bet theres a connection though!
Jeremy

[jeeb]

The child named Rhyle on the end of the 1851 census Glenys forwarded to you will be Royal surely!
Jeremy

[nightingale]

Hi Jeremy,

Yes after a few minutes of looking properly at the names and ages I realised that indeed this must be Royal when I first saw it for some unkown reason I thought of welsh!!!

Believe it or not for a few years I really thought this was my Solomon that you found but my relative has been in touch with a relative of that Solomon and Eliza, and no he wasn't ours! so it was on with the search! but thanks anyway.

Regards Pat

[busyglen]

Here you are Pat, although there are a lot of biblical names in many of the other Hearnes this is the largest family and is under HEARN.

1851 Census Bucks.
Chesham Pt.2
Piece 1717, Folio 121, Schedule 0094
Bridge St.

HEARN, Samuel, head, m, 37, Dealer, b Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Susannah, wife, m, 35, wife of Higgler, b. Uxbridge, MDX
HEARN, Mary Ann, daur, 13, Shoe Binder, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Joseph, son, 12, scholar, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Martha, daur, 10, scholar, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Matilda, daur, 8, scholar, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Samuel, son, 6, scholar, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Harriet, daur, 2, b. Chesham, BKM
HEARN, Elizabeth, daur, 6m, b. Chesham, BKM
MORES, Jane, serv. U, 20, b. Chesham, BKM

Hope this may be of some use, but if you have any other ideas, or can give me further information, I will look again for you.

Glenys

[nightingale]

Hi Glenys

Thanks again for all your help and what you have found for me, I shall use this new info to move that first brick.

all the best
Pat

[jeeb]

Hi Pat,
Do you have Solomon on the 1891 census? If not here he is:-

Wandsworth London RG12/448 Folio 116 Page 19
Solomon Hearne Head Mar 52 Tinker Not Known
Eliza Hearne Wife 48? Not known
Job Hearne son Mar 22 Tinker Surrey
Colly Hearne dau 15 Surrey
Zander Hearne dau 12 Surrey
Mark Hearne son 3
David Hearne 12w?

Note Job is married but no wife present & no birthplace for Solomon, Eliza & 2 youngest children. Bit elusive, this family!

Jeremy

[nightingale]

Hi Jeremy,

Yes this is my family, Solomon died not long after this census, and I know where he was in 1869 when Job was born but I just have not been able to trace him in any census before that, or his marriage, my info from my mother in passing many years ago was that he left his family aged about 13 and made his way down to London, but she forgot to mention where he left from. but I am sure that it was Herts/Bucks. in the census you have, shows a Peter Hearne lives there to and I am certain these are brothers I have traced Peter coming down and crossing London. but I can't find a birth for him although he is more generous with where he was born in earlier census's what ever I come across always leads back roughly to those two counties. I have also got a Mark and Araminta in my sights to at Fulham, along with Mechach and Shadrach, yes I know and yes there is a Bendigo to although it's Abendigo!!! wouldn't you think these would be so easy to link up but no!!!

Regards Pat

[Kay1]

Nightingale,

do you need any of the baptisms for Chesham looking up?

if so I might be able to help

Kay

[jlhearn]

G'day from Queensland,
This is my husband's family. Solomon's brother, Mark, was Neil's ancestor, born in Hawridge, Bucks which is near Chesham. I've gathered lots of information about them if you'd care to contact me by direct email. Have you seen the website Romany Road?
I've seen the Will of Moses Hearn of Chesham which is available from the National Archives for a small fee. Surely there's a link!
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Jan

[julie t]

Hi
i have been tracing the Hearne family my great great great grandfather was solomon and wife Mercy another family member has also been looking but he has dorcas down as solomons granddaughter from his son edmund and his wife rebecca. i am getting a bit confused at the moment hope you can help:)

[Findem]

Hi,

Just thought I'd mention the following I found whilst recently researching my wife's Buckinghamshire Ing ancestors, as an indication of where some Bucks born Hearnes can be found.

William Ing married Mary Hearne in 1674 at Long Crendon, Bucks, that info from the IGI and the Buckinghamshire FHS transcripts CD, on the Roads Family of Buckinghamshire site it is stated that Mary Hearne was born in Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, that piece of info is not mentioned on the transcripts CD.

On the Roads Family site there are 9 entries for Hern, 94 for Hearn and 23 for Hearne not all were born/baptised in Buckinghamshire. There are also 46 entries for Horne, I mention that spelling because my Essex line of Hearne over a period of time had their surname spelt also as Horn. I'll PM you the site address.

Regards