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lionsmom
24-08-2005, 07:23 PM
I have traced my ancestors back to Henry Jacobs (born 1772), a china and glass merchants whose daughter Amelia (born 1803) married Daniel Levy and lived on Hunter Street, London. They had several children, including Ernest Abraham born 1836 who emigrated to the US and is my great grandfather.
I have names and DOBs of other siblings, from the synagogue records. I'd appreciate any information on other family members (ancestors or descendants).

Geoffers
24-08-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm sorry that I can't help directly, but have you tried the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

You never know, someone from the same family may possibly be a member.

Geoffers
Charlbury, Oxfordshire

lionsmom
25-08-2005, 12:13 AM
I've just reactivated my searching, preparatory to another week in London at the end of October - I'll try the JGSGB also, thanks.

Juneyk
07-11-2005, 05:35 AM
I am researching the Jacobs family, particularly the Bristol Jacobs who made the "Bristol Blue" glass. I know that the family came to London where they were glass merchants. My Jacobs relations were Moses who married Sarah Levi/Levy.

phillip
10-01-2006, 06:36 PM
Henry Jacobs is my gggg grandfather. In the 1851 London Census he is living as a widower with Daniel Levy and his wife Amelia nee Jacobs. Their children are:Jeanette,Lewis,Henry,Earnest,Angelina, Catherine, Ellen. In addition, Louis Jacobs the grandson of Henry is also living with them. Catherine married into the Russell line and Angelina married a Lindow.
Elizabeth Jacobs sister to Amelia married John Hart a tailor originally in the Strand but later Regent Street. Their youngest son Henry Chapman Hart married Amelia Hart eldest daughter of Aaron Hart and Anne Rebecca Crawcour. These are my ggg grandparents and gg grandparents respectively.
There are data bases on the various families, some limited but others extensive.
It is possible that the father of Henry was a Moses Jacobs but this requires confirmation.
I would be delighted to share relevant information on these lines.

lionsmom
11-01-2006, 03:40 PM
This is in response to Juneyk and Phillip. I've replied to Phillip privately as it does seem that we are tracing the same family. I didn't ask him the source of his idea that Henry's father may have been Moses. I've been unable to trace anyone back farther than Henry, born in about 1772. Perhaps we can connect this to Juneyk's Moses. Let's continue to share information.
Carol

splouffe
31-01-2006, 05:00 PM
My ancestor William Lever was a small glass merchant in Glasgow. He was born in Russia 1871 died Glasgow 1951. His siblings so far, David, Jacob, Louis, Michael and Sidney Isaac. Parents Aaron and Dinah. They emigrated first to Wales then spread out from there in UK. I am wondering if there might be a connection. They used the surname Benjamin on naturalization documents, then Levi/Levey/Lever.

phillip
02-02-2006, 08:36 PM
The latest information regarding the Eliezer ben Jacob ( known as Lazarus Jacobs) line is that Lazarus came from Frankfurt to Bristol and established the Non Such Flint Manufactory during the 1770s-80s with his son Isaac developing the engraving for the Bristol blueware. The London Trade directories from the 1800s and the Sun Fire records on National Archives plus the JGSGB data bases on the Jewish Traders in London and the Historicaldirectories trade directories all indicate a significant number of Jacobs family names as glass cutters/dealers/manufacturers in the Berwick Street, Crown Street areas of London/Middx from the early 1800s.
We have currently identified several of the Jacobs as belonging to the same families. Levy and Lazarus family names are also involved in the glass trade but it is predominantly the Jacobs name.
On the basis of this current evidence we believe it highly likely that the Jacobs specialism in the glass trade probably originates from the Bristol Jacobs line but we are still seeking confirmation of this. To our knowledge there are no links to the Levy/Levi/Levey/Benjamin lines from Russia and Glasgow but we do not rule out such links given the specialist nature of glass work amongst a relatively small number of Jewish families over hundreds of years- see 'Glass Making: A Jewish Tradition Part V' Samuel Kurinsky- Hebrew History Federation.

splouffe
03-02-2006, 07:26 AM
Thank you for that information Phillip. On reflection it seems to me that family lore has it that William Lever of Glasgow was an importer of Glassware from the continent. Perhaps from his homeland, Russia/Lithuania
In case it is of interest to you, I will also post this snippet I was saving as a possible family connection.
Myer Levy, Bye Glass or Rye Glass company, london, went bankrupt in 1915, London Gazette, retailer of glassware

phillip
03-02-2006, 08:30 AM
With regard to MYER LEVY - glass dealer 1915- I note in Berger 1871-80 the reference to a Myer Levy and family in Southwark and his death in 1878. I suspect that this is not the same person as your line because of the date when the Benjamin/Levi/Lever family arrived in the UK from Russia but I there names including:
Jacob,Rose amongst others.
Doreen Berger is in the process of writing the third directory of Jewish Genealogical information from Jewish Newspapers for the period 1891-1900 so you never know what posssible family links you may find if of course the family is recorded.

pollywaffle
18-05-2006, 06:15 AM
Hi there,
I am tracing Philip Moss Levy (Yehudah Eliezer LEVI) who was a shoemaker and trader in london Ratcliffe Highway around 1829. I only ask because of the Henry you have, Philip also has Moss (maybe Moses) and Henry in his and his grasndson's names, also Lewis and Lyons come in to the name patterns in the family for a couple of generations. I don't know maybe?

phillip
20-05-2006, 01:59 PM
Hi Polly,
I have received recent new data on my family lines which includes:
The marriage of Lewis Hart= Julia Levy ( Lewis Hart was a tailor in 7 Hollywell St Strand- father Benjamin Hart slop seller and clothier my gggg grandfather also of 3 and 7 Hollywell St from 1807). Lewis's brother John Hart =Elizabeth Jacobs my ggg grandparents- Elizabeth's sister Amelia married Daniel Levy son of Judah Levy). From Amelia and Daniel's ketubah 1824 Amelia's Hebrew name is Minka bat Zvi nicknamed Hirtz. The Benjamin Hart children /John/Lewis/Rosa/Michael/Morris were all tailors/clothiers.

On my other Hart lines I have Henry Hart boot manufacturer 90 Leman St from 1808. He married Phoebe Myers ( daughter of Jacob Myers and Eve/Eva ? my ggggg grandparents) Their son Aaron Hart = Anne Rebecca Crawcour. Aaron was also a boot and shoe manufacturer in partnership with his brother John trading from Leman Street and later 156 Houndsditch- their siblings include Moss/Napthali/Leah/Julia amongst others.

I have a lot more data on the families should you wish to know more.
My lines have American and Australian links.
Regards
Phillip

phillip
23-05-2006, 09:49 AM
Polly and others,
In searching for my Moses/Levy/Hart/Jacobs families I have used a wide range of sources which others may not be aware of.
There are several excellent sources of information on locating Anglo Jewish families including the UK National Archives- English Strand. If you type in the family name or an address you can see significant numbers of records including the Sun Fire Policy records which include dates/address/name and trade. There is also the Wills pre 1858 plus other sections.
You can then cross reference this data with the JewishGen British data base for names particularly London traders.
Some of the synagogue records for London have been donated by Angela Shire and appear on the Sherry Landa British Jewry site- these can be down loaded. There are the excellent two directories written by Doreen Berger ' The Jewish Victorian. Genealogical information from the Jewish Newspapers 1861-70 and 1871-80'. These contain hundreds of names/addresses of Anglo Jewish families plus cross referenced to relatives names. She is working on her 3rd volume for 1891-1900. Then there are the Susser archives again available on line for identifying Anglo Jewish names.
See also the University of Leceister Historical Directories site which has various collections of trade directories including London and some provincial areas- these list traders/addresses.
The Jewish Chronicle has made its collection of archives from the late 1700s to the present available on line but there are charges. type in address
More and more of this information is being made available on line- some at a cost others free.
Phillip

pollywaffle
13-06-2006, 04:43 AM
June We indeed have a connection then...my Sarah LEVY married Henry moss Jacobs at the Emily Street Synagogue in 1863. Jacobs died in 1887 Sarah remarried George Symmonds Budge.

i am related via Sarah's brother Lewis lyons Levy who then married Jane Goodisson in Wanganui and had another Lewis, Philip, Leah and Rachel.

I would absolutely love to hear from you!

pollywaffle
13-06-2006, 04:57 AM
Sth Cross Friday 3 July 1863
MARRIAGES;
On the 1st Instant at the Synagogue, Emily Place, Auckland, by Mr Henry ISAACS hon. officiating Minister, Henry, second son of Moss JACOBS of London to Sarah, only daughter of Philip LEVY of this city. Home Papers please copy.

JACOBS 1-Aug-1862 D On 30th July at 41 Leman St., Martha, wife of Moss Jacobs, aged 57
London Jewish Chronicle Index to 1869

And from the NZ Archives his probate

JACOBS Henry Moss 1887 - 1887

agency series accession box / item record part alternative no.
BBAE 1569 Box5 111

phillip
30-06-2006, 11:35 PM
Following contact with several other researchers investigating the Henry Jacobs b 1772 Aldgate lines the following information has been found. The Gt Synagogue Marriage Records show:
March 29, 1826
Lawrence Levy
Eliezer Lazie ben Yehuda Leib
father Yehuda Leib ( priviliged member)
Rebecca Jacobs
Breina bat Zvi Hirsch
father Zvi Hirsch

July 31,1815
Moses Jacobs
Moshe ben Zvi Hirsch
father
Zvi Hirsch ( priviliged member)
Sarah Levy
Sara bat Simha Segal
father Simha Segal

NB This is the marriage of Moses Jacobs to Sarah Levy who are the relatives of June ( see earlier messages on this thread)

15th Dec 1824
Lewis Jacobs
Eliezer Lazer ben Zvi Hirsch
father Zvi Hirsch ( privileged member)
Rawner Simmonds
Rona bat Binyamin
father Binyamin ( priviliged member)

Nb Rawner is Dinah Rauner Simmonds- father Woolfe and mother Eve

Lewis and Moses Jacobs are brothers- Lewis Henry Jacobs is a dealer in china - Tyssen Place and Moses is also a china dealer 101 Berwick St in 1844. In the case of Moses Jacobs b 1794 he later becomes in 1851 a Law General Agent but Sarah is a china shop keeper and their 27 year old daughter an assistant and their 16 year old son an errand boy.

23 March 1823

Abraham Jacob Cantor
Avraham ben ( the learned) Aharon Yaakov
Pheby Jacobs
Fradchi bat Zvi Hirsch
father Zvi Hirsch

Nb Phoebe dies in 1881 age 80 and was born in Aldgate. The first name Rosetta ? has been given as the mother of Phoebe by some researchers but this requires confirmation.
I have further data on the Abraham/Phoebe lines.

All the above marriages have a Henry Jacobs as the father of the bride or groom but the key question is are all the Jacobs siblings and children of the same Henry Jacobs and is he also the Henry Jacobs b 1772 Aldgate and father to Elizabeth m John Hart and Amelia m Daniel Levy.

I hope the above information helps other researchers looking at the various Jacobs connections.
Phillip

phillip
01-07-2006, 01:48 PM
The following data is linked to the line of Moses Jacobs and his marriage to Sarah Levy and the ongoing attempt to identify the various relationships which may or may not exist between the Henry Jacobs b 1772 Aldgate and the other Jacobs lines identified previously in this thread.

The marriage of Moses Jacobs to Sarah Levy ( GSM 164/39) August ?1815
Moses Jacobs Descended from a priviliged member Moshe s of Tebi Hirsh
Sarah Levy
Sarah d of Simcha SGL

This line includes their children:
Samuel Jacobs b 1817 d 8th April 1885 Coleridge St Christchurch NZ
He married Fanny Gomm b 1830 d 1869; Emma Bristow b 1851 d 1907

David Jacobs b 1820- he married Matilda Jacobs b c 1822 - married 1848

The other children of Moses and Sarah were Ann and Lawrence

In private messages between myself, Carol and June we have collated a range of data on the various Jacobs lines including family trees and census records from 1841. This has enabled us to discount or confirm various family relationships.

We know that Henry Jacobs was a priviliged member of the Gt Synagogue and this may supply a tentative clue as to the various relationships between the Jacobs lines.

The Moss Jacobs marriage to Martha is recorded in Doreen Berger's The Jewish Victorian. Genealogical information from the Jewish Newspapers 1861- 70 and shows:
The death of Martha Jacobs at 41 Leman St 30th July 1862 age 57
There are links in the records to Mrs Barnard Isaacs and Mrs Alfred Jacobs but the relationships are not identified.

We have also identified a range of other Jacobs lines all glass dealers/traders/manufacturers in London which have enabled us to link or discount the various families.

I am happy to share all this data with possible relatives.
Phillip

sandiep
02-07-2006, 12:07 AM
phillip do you by any chance have any reference to a Isaac Jacobs who married a Louisa Wakeman around 1867 they had 2 children David c 1867 and Mark c1870 on the 1871 Louisa is down as a widow although by 1881 she had another son Samuel who I believe was the son of Joseph Raphael...........they had serveral other children but didnt marry until 1904!! by which time they had converted away from being jewish.

sandie

phillip
02-07-2006, 01:51 PM
Sandie,
I have looked on Free BMD for Isaac Jacobs death plus the birth of David and Mark Jacobs. This is the data:
Death Isaac Abraham Jacobs Hackney Dec 1871 age 61 1b 365
Births:
David Jacobs March 1866 Holborn 1b 591
David Jacobs June 1867 Whitechapel 1c 376
Mark Jacobs March 1870 Whitechapel 1c 370
Mark Jacobs June 1870 Whitechapel 1c 346

You will need to do searches on the GRO records to see if any of the above are your line. I also looked in Berger 1861-70 for references to Isaac Jacobs but noted no one who reflected the data you have. The same applies to the Raphael enquiry.
You might want to look on JewishGen and the Jeffrey Maynard Anglo Jewish Miscellanies sites.
Phillip

sandiep
02-07-2006, 03:22 PM
thanks Phillip
sorry I thought you had some differant data to the GRO refs as I have exhausted them and had no luck with the others but thank you for looking......

sandie

phillip
03-07-2006, 09:37 PM
In order to widen the various related family links to the Henry Jacobs lines I also include the following outline data on my lines.
This data links the families: Hart/Jacobs/Cohen/Simmons/Davis/Moses/Lyons/Joseph/Leroy/Soher including Australian and American relations.

The two main familes are Hart and Jacobs namely the children of Benjamin Hart and Henry Jacobs and their marriages.
The focus of this message is the Benjamin Hart line which includes his children:
Rosa b 1794- d 1880 m Henry Moses
John b 1796 d 1865 m Elizabeth Jacobs- their son David John m Sarah Simmons and is the Australian line
Henry b 1802 d 1868 m Rosa Lyons b 1805 d 1861
Michael b 1802 d 1861 m Frances Davis b 1814 d 1878 *** This line can be found in the American Jewish Archives. American Jewish First Families. The line includes- Soher/Leroy/Little amongst others
Lewis b 1804 d 1875 m Julia B Levy
Morris b 1806 d 1876 unmarried

I would welcome contactw with researchers on the above lines.
Phillip

pollywaffle
13-07-2006, 02:26 PM
Wow and wow, this has opened a can of worms. OK now further to identifying my Sarah LEVY and Henry Moss JACOBS. Henry Moss JACOBS is the son of Moss and Martha and brother of Alfred and Sophia who married Bernard Isaacs.
JACOBS
1-Aug-1862 D
On 30th July at 41 Leman St., Martha, wife of Moss Jacobs, aged 57.

JACOBS
8-Aug-1862 RT
Mr Moss, Mr Alfred Jacobs and Mrs Bernard Isaacs return thanks...41 Leman St.

This threw everyone into a spin because no-one knew about Henry. He was in a remote area in NZ and it took two years or such for the news to reach him.

He put a death notice for his father in the Thames Advertiser 8 November 1875 - At his residence, 18 Cross Street, Hatton Garden, London, Moss Jacobs, aged 69 years, father of H. M. Jacobs, of Hastings, Thames Goldfields; deeply lamented by his sorrowing family and friends. May his soul rest in peace. Tapu is in the Hastings district.

The headstone transcription recorded reads: Henry Moss Jacobs. d. 19 July 1887. Tammuz 27, 5647, in his 51st year. Underneath this is a dodgy picture of what looks like 5 squares, each with a cone shape over it and the words = 5 crowns and a note that this inscription is on the top of the headstone.

So, does this help.

Polly

Juneyk
15-07-2006, 06:39 AM
June We indeed have a connection then...my Sarah LEVY married Henry moss Jacobs at the Emily Street Synagogue in 1863. Jacobs died in 1887 Sarah remarried George Symmonds Budge.

i am related via Sarah's brother Lewis lyons Levy who then married Jane Goodisson in Wanganui and had another Lewis, Philip, Leah and Rachel.

I would absolutely love to hear from you!

I don't think there is a connection, Polly. My Sarah LEVY married Moses JACOBS in 1815, and the other names that you quote are unknown to me in my family tree.

nikkastar
12-11-2006, 12:11 AM
My ancestor was Rebekah Jacobs was born in London, England in 1826. Her parents were Louis Jacobs and Amelia Levy. Amelia's parents were David and Leah Levy. I found an old letter stating that the Levy family had a beautiful glass and china shop in London. I'm not quite sure if the Jacobs side of that family was also in the glass business. Does anyone have these names in their family tree?

Peter Wales
10-05-2007, 03:40 PM
June
My 2 x great grandfather was Moses Jacobs who married Sarah Levy. If you search The Procedings of the Old Bailey, London 1674 to 1834 and search Moses Jacobs, you will find an interesting trial on 9th April 1829. Peter

I am researching the Jacobs family, particularly the Bristol Jacobs who made the "Bristol Blue" glass. I know that the family came to London where they were glass merchants. My Jacobs relations were Moses who married Sarah Levi/Levy.

Peter Wales
10-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Phillip
My 2 x great grandfather was Moses Jacobs who married Sarah Levy. Moses had another son Henry (my great grandfather) born in 1832. He would have appeared in the 1841 Census for Berwick Street, Soho, but it is missing and by the 1851 census he had emigrated to USA. He married Ellen Silverstone and started a family before returning to England at the start of the american Civil War. He had 10 children by Ellen and 1861 plus 1871 census shows him as a glass dealer and living in North Street, Brighton. He then moved to Holborn and had a new partner Elizabeth Twine and fathered a further 7 children. Alice the eldest of these was my grandmother. I have read your messages and would very much like to learn more about Moses and his father Henry Plus Tsebi Hirsh. You may be interested in some information about Moses and Henry Jacobs mentioned in Old Bailey Trials. Search web site called The Poceedings of the Old Bailey, London 1674 to 1834, click on search by name and enter Moses Jacobs. See trials of 11 Jan 1827 and 9th April 1829.
These indicate addresses in Mansell street Whitehapel, Pheonix Street, St Giles and Charles Street Soho. It also indicates Moses's brother-in-law Hart.
The children mentioned are Samuel, David and Ann, with Henry and Lawrence not yet born.
Regards
Peter

The following data is linked to the line of Moses Jacobs and his marriage to Sarah Levy and the ongoing attempt to identify the various relationships which may or may not exist between the Henry Jacobs b 1772 Aldgate and the other Jacobs lines identified previously in this thread.

The marriage of Moses Jacobs to Sarah Levy ( GSM 164/39) August ?1815
Moses Jacobs Descended from a priviliged member Moshe s of Tebi Hirsh
Sarah Levy
Sarah d of Simcha SGL

This line includes their children:
Samuel Jacobs b 1817 d 8th April 1885 Coleridge St Christchurch NZ
He married Fanny Gomm b 1830 d 1869; Emma Bristow b 1851 d 1907

David Jacobs b 1820- he married Matilda Jacobs b c 1822 - married 1848

The other children of Moses and Sarah were Ann and Lawrence

In private messages between myself, Carol and June we have collated a range of data on the various Jacobs lines including family trees and census records from 1841. This has enabled us to discount or confirm various family relationships.

We know that Henry Jacobs was a priviliged member of the Gt Synagogue and this may supply a tentative clue as to the various relationships between the Jacobs lines.

The Moss Jacobs marriage to Martha is recorded in Doreen Berger's The Jewish Victorian. Genealogical information from the Jewish Newspapers 1861- 70 and shows:
The death of Martha Jacoblowing data is linked to the line of Moses Jacobs and his marriage to Sarah Levy and the ongoing attempt to identify the various relationships which may or may not exist between the Henry Jacobs b 1772 Aldgate and the other Jacobs lines identified previously in this thread.

The marriage of Moses Jacobs to Sarah Levy ( GSM 164/39) August ?1815
Moses Jacobs Descended from a priviliged member Moshe s of Tebi Hirsh
Sarah Levy
Sarah d of Simcha SGL

This line includes their children:
Samuel Jacobs b 1817 d 8th April 1885 Coleridge St Christchurch NZ
He married Fanny Gomm b 1830 d 1869; Emma Bristow b 1851 d 1907

David Jacobs b 1820- he married Matilda Jacobs b c 1822 - married 1848

The other children of Moses and Sarah were Ann and Lawrence

In private messages between myself, Carol and June we have collated a range of data on the various Jacobs lines including family trees and census records from 1841. This has enabled us to discount or confirm various family relationships.

We have also identified a range of other Jacobs lines all glass dealers/traders/manufacturers in London which have enabled us to link or discount the various families.

I am happy to share all this data with possible relatives.
Phillip

phillip
15-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Following further research involving my three distant cousins ( two of whom appear on this specific thread) we have obtained a wide range of new data on the Jacobs Glass dealers/manufacturers who traded in Crown Street, Petticoat Lane, Artillery Passage amongst other business locations from the late 1700s- late 1800s.
Having obtained a copy of the David Jacobs ( Litzen) family tree from the Hyamson Collection at the Society of Genealogists in London we now know that the various Jacobs trading as glass dealers and manufufacturers at the above locations ( but also including other trades such as butchers) are all related.
In addition, the family name is Litzen ( in the Gt Synagogue records it is recorded as Letson and may well be derived from the original place name of either Litzen/Lietzen/Lutsen in West Prussia). The main progenitor of the line is David Jacobs a glass dealer and his sons Philip, Henry, Jacob and daughters.
Details of this David our ggggg grandfather appear in the Old Bailey trials online.
The families link via marriage to Levy/Cantor/Hart and other families.
We would be happy to share data with other interested researchers.
Phillip

nikkastar
21-11-2007, 11:28 PM
My great-great grandfather, Isaac Harris, was in the shoe business in London in the 1840's. His wife Rebecca's maiden name was Jacobs. Her parents were Louis Jacobs and Amelia Jacobs (nee Levy). According to an old letter I have, dated April 4, 1947 from their daughter Sheba----- Rebecca spent a great part of her childhood with her grandparents- the Levy's who owned a Cutglass business off Regent St. in London. She couldn't remember the exact address but she wrote it was __________ Place. She wrote the store sold, glass, china, and ornaments. Rebecca and Isaac came to America in 1850. Rebecca died in 1889. She was 60.
Do my Jacobs/Levys have any relation to yours?

phillip
22-11-2007, 09:30 PM
Hi Nikki
First of all have you looked in the London Gazette Archives for Louis Jacobs and also in JewishGen UK data bases under the Jacobs name - London traders plus the UK National Archives English strand 2a. I ask because our Lewis Jacobs are all spelt with the w and not a oui. In addition, we do not recognise the Regent St address. However, Carol Freeman who has Levy relatives is still tracing her line and we would not want to rule out the possibility of links to your Jacobs/Levy. Harris does not appear amongst our family lines.

The Levy glass/china dealers who are related to our Jacobs lines are- Daniel Levy ( father Judah ha Levi) who married Amelia Jacobs daughter of Henry and Kitty Moses.Daniel was trading at 30 Surrey Place Old Kent road 1846 and then 52 Lambs Conduit Street in 1852. Daniel had died by 1861 and Amelia and her 2 older daughters were described in the 1861 census as 'retired china and glass dealers' and Henry Jacobs is living with them as a retired glass merchant. Henry died in 1865 at 10 Doughty St Mecklenburgh Square.
Daniel may have had a sister Gittela who married Abraham Hart in 1826- this line had at least 5 children Charlotte;Lewis Joseph;Adolphus Daniel;Ernest Abraham;Ella.

Can you please supply us with more details regarding your family lines so that we can help confirm or reject any possible links between us.

Peter Wales g grandfather was Henry Jacobs who went to USA but returned to UK and lived in Brighton trading in glass and china
Our Jacobs lines traded at 12 Charles St- 101 Berwick St ; Mansell St; 64 Crown St; amongst others.
Phillip

nikkastar
23-11-2007, 12:40 AM
Thanks, Phillip for your post. The only other information I have right now is that my Amelia Jacobs (nee Levy) had parents named David and Leah Levy. If I find out any new info on my side, after more research, I will let you know. I would really appreciate any light you can shed on my family. Thanks again.

phillip
23-11-2007, 05:34 PM
Hi Nikki
Have you looked at JewishGen and if so , did you see David Levy 1836 123 New Bond St and 5 King St lamp manufacturer. If you also look you can see Isaac Harris 1849 10 Warwick Court High Holborn - bootmaker. The other David Levy's are not in any trade which resembles glass/china.
Also, you may want to do a posting on the British Jewry site which has very helpful listers.
You really need to look at the 1841+ London census returns for David Levy and family- am I right in thinking you have not done so. Is the David Levy as above your relative?
I have other Levy records which I will check. Also, see the HistoricalDirectories University of Leicester site for David Levy and Isaac Harris see under London and browse the directories.
We in our turn are checking various sources.
Phillip

phillip
24-11-2007, 08:03 AM
For the various researchers looking at the Jacobs glass manufacturers message boards- all the above familes are related via marriage. Debbie, Carol, Peter, myself are all distant cousins via the Jacobs lines.
Between us we have accumulated ( and are still researching) large amounts of data on the various lines. Some of the lines particularly the Crawcour families have very large data bases with information world wide.
Phillip

nikkastar
24-11-2007, 08:53 PM
Once again, thanks Phillip for all of your wonderful ideas. The Isaac Harris- bootmaker-you mentioned is indeed my Isaac. I had confirmed this using different sources- documents and oral traditions. I will continue to look into the background of David Levy using the resources that you suggested. Thanks again.

phillip
25-11-2007, 08:14 AM
Nickka
Just to say that Carol Freeman is looking into the Lewis/Louis Jacobs issue. She has discovered a Louis Jacobs spelling on one of her documents but needs to do more research. She is in USA like yourself.
Keep us informed about what you discover.
Phillip

phillip
06-12-2007, 01:59 PM
For those researchers interested in the Jacobs glass manufacturers and dealers of Crown Street; Mansell Street and other areas we ( my four distant cousins and myself) have decided to put our data on a website hosted by one of us. This should not only help us record data but hopefully receive contacts from other researchers.
The various first names of our Jacobs lines include: Henry,Lewis, Moses, John, Abraham, Elizabeth, Amelia, Phoebe amongst others.
The families are related through marriage to MOSES,CRAWCOUR, HART, LEVY, NERWICH, MYERS amongst others.
Many of the families can be seen in the Doreen Berger 'The Jewish Victorian. Genealogical Information from the Jewish Newspapers' 2 vols 1861-70;71-80
and also in some of the messages on the British Jewry website.
Phillip

phillip
24-12-2007, 11:19 AM
My cousins and I have established a Jacobs Family History website set up by Dave Simpson.
The site is in its infancy but we will be adding a lot of new data.

We intend to cross reference the site to other sources including links to the various families including:
HART/CRAWCOUR/COURLANDER/LEVY/MOSES/MYERS/GOLDSMID/BARNETT/PHILLIPS/SOLOMON/SALAMAN amongst hundreds of others.
Phillip

phillip
30-01-2008, 01:48 PM
For researchers looking seeking more data on the JACOBS family history see my website.


This site is being further developed. More data on the JACOBS lines can be seen on the British Jewry website.

Phillip

sandiep
30-01-2008, 10:30 PM
just been to your site, what a great job you have done, although your Jacobs dont appear to be joined to mine I have just spent an interesting hour or so reading all your info............sandie

phillip
26-04-2008, 07:13 AM
By way of an up date and in response to a private message -we have updated our Jacobs family tree and there is much more data on the various families including the Samuel Jacobs and Emma Bristow line. The person who is related to the family may not have received my response but they are welcome to try to send a new message.
Phillip

CJacobs
27-04-2008, 12:14 AM
I have recieved your reply have sent contact details. which I made a blunder in Samuel didnt have 10 children I left out a Grandfather (My Gran left with the Family tree last night). Ok start again Lawrence was the 3rd son of Samuel and Emma he married Lillian had 11 children and my Grandad was Owen Carlton Jacobs was the 11th child. Sorry for any confusion. Our Family Tree was created by Ken Churchward and it covers Samuel and Emmas childen etc. He is updating it again since traveling to NZ and meeting new family members.

Juneyk
27-04-2008, 06:17 AM
I have noted your posting and can tell you a great deal about the family. I am descended from Samuel and Emma's first born, Alfred Ernest Bristow. I would be very interested to meet you as I live in Carterton and I see you are in Wellington.

CJacobs
27-04-2008, 10:37 AM
Hi June I am Katrina, I have been helping my dad out, and enjoying this myself too. He is excited too meet any new family members I have given him your email so you can keep in contact. You know whats funny my Grandfather who sadly passed away in 2003 lived in Paihiatua in his last years.