Look up request - Parents of Charles Roll of Northumbria

[brad]

Father was Billy (William?) Allan Roll, also known as big Al. Sister was Katherine or Catherine (born 31 Jan 1893, unconfirmed). Not sure if Charles was born in Ashington, Northumberland, England. It could have been Cowpen. Born 9 December 1894. Lived in Ashington and was a coal miner.
Would appreciate any help or confirmation to anyone with access to the censuses.

[Trish]

I think this must be your ROLL family in 1901:

Address: Kitty Brewster, Cowpen

Wm ROLE Head 48 Miner born Norfolk
Mary Anne ROLE Wife 39 born Choppington, Northumberland
William ROLE Son 14 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland
Janet? Ellenor ROLE Daughter 12 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland
Jan or Ian Edward ROLE Son 9 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland
Catherine ROLE Daughter 8 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland
Charles ROLE Son 7 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland
Alice ROLE Daughter 2 born Bebisle R?, Northumberland

RG13/4813 Folio 189

Will now look for them in earlier censuses...

HTH,
Trish

[Trish]

And the ROLL family in 1891:

Address: Kitty Brewister, Cowpen

William ROLL Head 38 Coal Miner born Hindringham, Norfolk
Mary A. ROLL Wife 30 born Choppington, Northumberland
John N. ROLL Son 13 Coal Miner born Bebside, Northumberland
Mary A. ROLL Daughter 11 born Bebside, Northumberland
William ROLL Son 4 born Kitty Brewister, Northumberland
James E. ROLL Son 2 born Kitty Brewister, Northumberland
George ROLL Son 1 born Kitty Brewister, Northumberland

RG12/4239 Folio 15

Now for 1881...

Trish

[Trish]

The ROLLs are at a different address in 1881 and William's wife is named Sarah. You can look them up at www.familysearch.org (http://www.familysearch.org/). RG11/5116 Folio 115.

Finding 18 year old William ROLL in 1871 is a bit more difficult. He could be in Northumberland or maybe he's still in Norfolk or perhaps somewhere else altogether. But I do see one which -- except for his first name -- fits the bill quite well:

Address: Horton, Northumberland
Charles ROLL Head 48, Coal Miner born Hindringham, Norfolk
Mary Ann ROLL Wife 45 born Hindringham, Norfolk
James William ROLL Son 18 Coal Miner, born Morston, Norfolk
John Robert ROLL Son 15 Coal Miner born Morston, Norfolk
George Edward Son 9 born Cramlington, Northumberland

RG10/5134 Folio 53

Trish

[Trish]

And, lastly, 1861:

Address: Old Stone Row, Cramlington Colliery, Northumberland

Charles ROLL Head 39 Coal Miner born Hindringham, Norfolk
Mary Ann ROLL Wife 36 born Hindringham, Norfolk
James W. ROLL Son 7 Scholar born Hindringham, Norfolk
John R. ROLL Son 4 Scholar born Hindringham, Norfolk

RG9/3851 Folio 64

Trish

[Geoffers]

You will have to confirm the census entries by hunting down brth and marriage certificates; but if the entries that Trish has kindly provided do end up being your family, then the 1851 census transcript shows Charles (aged 39 in the 1861 census entry) as follows::

HO107/1826 f560 p14
Morston
Charles RALL, hd, mar, 28, lab, Hindringham
Maria RALL, wf, mar, 23, , bn --- Nfk


There are several other ROLL families with a connection to Hindringham in teh 1851 census, these are:

continued....

[Geoffers]

page 2.....

With research, you may be able to show that these ROLL families are connected to the entry in my previous posting

HO107/1826 f407 p5
Hindringham
James ROLL, Head, Mar, 24, Groom, Hindringham
Lucy ROLL, Wife, Mar, 23, , Beeston
James ROLL, Son, , 4, At Home, Hindringham
Robert ROLL, Son, , 1, At Home, Hindringham

continued....

[Geoffers]

page 3......

HO107/1826 f411 p12
Bakers Lane, Hindringham
Susan ROLL, Head, Wid, 48, Pauper, Hindringham
John ROLL, Son, Unm, 19, Ag Lab, Hindringham
Robert ROLL, Son, Unm, 15, Ag Lab, Hindringham
George ROLL, Son, Unm, 13, Ag Lab, Hindringham
Edward ROLL, Son, Unm, 8, At Home, Hindringham

continued....

[Geoffers]

page 4....
HO107/1826 f425 p17
Bell Inn, Frogs Lane
Thursford
William ROLL, Head, Mar, 46, Carpenter & Innkeeper, Thursford
Elizabeth ROLL, Wife, Mar, 45, Housekeeper, London
Elizabeth ROLL, Daur, Unm, 18, Dressmaker, Hindringham
William ROLL, Son, Unm, 16, Carpenter (App), Hindringham
John ROLL, Son, , 14, Ag. Lab., Hindringham
James ROLL, Son, , 12, Ag. Lab., Hindringham
Mary Ann ROLL, Daur, , 9, Scholar, Hindringham

[Geoffers]

One last entry before I leave you in peace, the 1841 census shows a Charles ROLL, the right age, living in Hindringham - possibly with his father and family....

HO107/772/06 f16 p1
Hindringham
William ROLL, 64, ag.lab
Susan ROLL, 40
Sarah Ann ROLl, 20
Charles ROLL, 17, ag.lab
James ROLL, 15, ag.lab
John ROLL, 13, ag.lab
Robert ROLL, 6
Georger ROLL, 3

all shown as born in Norfolk (in caseyou aren't aware, the 1841 census recorded less information than later censuses)

Geoffers

[brad]

Re: The ROLLs are at a different address in 1881 and William's wife is named Sarah. You can look them up at www.familysearch.org. RG11/5116 Folio 115.

Tried looking them up but failed, please advise wher to search and how to fill in RG11/5116 Folio 115. ( Yes I am new at this, please bear with me!)

All Resources
Ancestral File
Census
International Genealogical Index
Pedigree Resource File
Vital Records Index

Batch Number Serial/Sheet Number Film Number

I am still trying to verify them.

Trish!!!! Where are you???? You will be happy to learn that I am making great progress and learning Genealogy from A-Z, now around the G. Noboby said that this was addictive!!

[Procat]

Hi Brad,

You can't search on Family Search using census references.

Just go to the site Trish gave you and select "Search". Enter William Roll, Event type Birth, Year 1853, give it a spread of 2 years just to be sure and narrow it down to England.

Click on Search and then look in the results under the category 1881 census for William Roll, Born Hindringham and click on his name.

(The reference Trish gave you will appear on the bottom of the Individual Record screen that comes up.)

To see all the family present just click on "Household" to the right of William Rolls name.

[Trish]

Oh, sorry, Brad -- for not warning you advance. Now you know, it is addictive. Very addictive. Obsessive, even. No matter how much you dig up, it will never be enough.

I trust you were able to access the 1881 info with Procat's help. Also, did you get the info I sent directly to you? The 1841 and 1851 census info from Geoffers should be invaluable to you as well.

Good luck!
Trish

[brad]

Thank you both for your help. I managed to get the info after I had found it via another route, Google - PRO - A2A - Ancesrty.com 1881.

I did get the info that you sent directly to me, double thanks Trish.

In a fortnight I will do some digging at the Family Records Centre in London, I have done my homework there and know all about the colour coding of their archive books.

You will no doubt be hearing from me when I start on the other branches, hehe!

Brad

[lisaridley]

hi my name is lisa and i believe the family you are looking for (the Roll family) are my grandmothers family. We are at the moment trying to put together a family tree, and would like to share any information you may have and also tell you what we have found out so far.

[brad]

Hi Lisa,
Congratulations on your wedding in May. I have some new info on your side of the family.
I have tried to e-mail you but you must have a new e-mail address to go with your new surname?
E-mail me when you get the chance.
Brad