BeeE586
18-07-2005, 1:52 PM
In my previous posts I seem to have made a complete dog's breakfast of the continuity, so I will try again.
John Swan Millthorpe married Harriet HORNE (of LEI Coleorton) in DBY Staveley and raised his family there, including my maternal grandmother. John Swan (he always used both names) was baptized YKS Ecclesfield in 1839, son of Obadiah and Elizabeth nee SWAN who were married at YKS Sheffield St Peter in 1836. Obadiah was a widower at the time.
There is an entry in the Ecclesfield register of a baptism of Hannah daughter of Obadiah and Mary Millthorpe in 1824, but I have never been able to find a marriage or a burial for this Mary.
In 1841 in Wadsley Bridge we have Obadiah, Elizabeth, Hannah, John Swan (all Millthorpe) and Cyrus Dimberline. Obadiah died in 1842 and Hannah in the Workhouse in 1843 - parents unknown - and I have both Certificates.
Elizabeth next turns up in DBY Staveley where she baptizes a posthunous daughter, Mary, and later marries William BRITTAIN, giving her father's name as Samuel DIMBERLINE. Perhaps Cyrus was her brother.
The next part of the story caused much head scratching, a certain amount of bad language and frustration and threats to make a bonfire of the whole confounded lot. I guess we have all been through that !
Eventually it transpired that Samuel Dimberline was in fact Elizabeth's STEPFATHER, and that she was daughter of John SWAN and Eleanor Millthorpe, married in Tankersley in 1815. John SWAN died there, as did a Martha Dimberline, and Eleanor widow of John, and Samuel widower of Martha married in 1835, also at Sheffield St Peter, and are found in 1841 and subsequent cenus returns in Staveley. Cyrus was son of Samuel and Martha, not brother to Elizabeth. I spent about five years researching DIMBERLINE and its many variations before discovering it was the wrong line.
Eleanor, formerly Swan nee Millthorpe lived into her nineties and always said on census that she was of Spitalfields London. By ages given on census and at death she must have been barely 17 when she married in 1815 - how did she get from Spitalfields to Tankersly, and why ? A descendant of Mary, the posthumous daughter, who lived in London searched extensively through the London repositories without finding a clue. I have the complete list of MILLTHORPE from the IGI - no Eleanor or any variation, e.g Ellena, Ellen, Elenor, Hellena, etc.
Millthorpe is not a common name - there are many counties of the IGI where it does not appear at all - and in the 1851 census for St. I guess we have all been through that !
There is on the IGI Obadiah son of Richd, baptized YKS Warmfield in 1735, and a marriage of Obadiah - quite possibly the same man - to Susanna ORRIDGE at YKS Wakefield All Saints in 1766. No other children of Rich(ar)d, or any children of Obadiah and Susanna.
There are some references to the name Millthorpe in Sheffield/Rotherham areas, but nothing pertinent. I searched the Yorkshire Parish Register Society Series in Sheffield Archives - there are some, but none apparently mine. Sadly, because of my disability I have never been able to travel further afield in Yorkshire. Is there anyone, please, with access to Wakefield/Warmfield registers who could perhaps find my Obadiah, and can anyone suggest any way of tracking down Eleanor.
Millthorpe is my middle name - I would like to find out more.
Hope this makes more sense.
Eileen :)
John Swan Millthorpe married Harriet HORNE (of LEI Coleorton) in DBY Staveley and raised his family there, including my maternal grandmother. John Swan (he always used both names) was baptized YKS Ecclesfield in 1839, son of Obadiah and Elizabeth nee SWAN who were married at YKS Sheffield St Peter in 1836. Obadiah was a widower at the time.
There is an entry in the Ecclesfield register of a baptism of Hannah daughter of Obadiah and Mary Millthorpe in 1824, but I have never been able to find a marriage or a burial for this Mary.
In 1841 in Wadsley Bridge we have Obadiah, Elizabeth, Hannah, John Swan (all Millthorpe) and Cyrus Dimberline. Obadiah died in 1842 and Hannah in the Workhouse in 1843 - parents unknown - and I have both Certificates.
Elizabeth next turns up in DBY Staveley where she baptizes a posthunous daughter, Mary, and later marries William BRITTAIN, giving her father's name as Samuel DIMBERLINE. Perhaps Cyrus was her brother.
The next part of the story caused much head scratching, a certain amount of bad language and frustration and threats to make a bonfire of the whole confounded lot. I guess we have all been through that !
Eventually it transpired that Samuel Dimberline was in fact Elizabeth's STEPFATHER, and that she was daughter of John SWAN and Eleanor Millthorpe, married in Tankersley in 1815. John SWAN died there, as did a Martha Dimberline, and Eleanor widow of John, and Samuel widower of Martha married in 1835, also at Sheffield St Peter, and are found in 1841 and subsequent cenus returns in Staveley. Cyrus was son of Samuel and Martha, not brother to Elizabeth. I spent about five years researching DIMBERLINE and its many variations before discovering it was the wrong line.
Eleanor, formerly Swan nee Millthorpe lived into her nineties and always said on census that she was of Spitalfields London. By ages given on census and at death she must have been barely 17 when she married in 1815 - how did she get from Spitalfields to Tankersly, and why ? A descendant of Mary, the posthumous daughter, who lived in London searched extensively through the London repositories without finding a clue. I have the complete list of MILLTHORPE from the IGI - no Eleanor or any variation, e.g Ellena, Ellen, Elenor, Hellena, etc.
Millthorpe is not a common name - there are many counties of the IGI where it does not appear at all - and in the 1851 census for St. I guess we have all been through that !
There is on the IGI Obadiah son of Richd, baptized YKS Warmfield in 1735, and a marriage of Obadiah - quite possibly the same man - to Susanna ORRIDGE at YKS Wakefield All Saints in 1766. No other children of Rich(ar)d, or any children of Obadiah and Susanna.
There are some references to the name Millthorpe in Sheffield/Rotherham areas, but nothing pertinent. I searched the Yorkshire Parish Register Society Series in Sheffield Archives - there are some, but none apparently mine. Sadly, because of my disability I have never been able to travel further afield in Yorkshire. Is there anyone, please, with access to Wakefield/Warmfield registers who could perhaps find my Obadiah, and can anyone suggest any way of tracking down Eleanor.
Millthorpe is my middle name - I would like to find out more.
Hope this makes more sense.
Eileen :)