FARMER of berkshire/hampshire/australia

[mr angry]

Hi looking for jeremiah farmer born 1800, transported to tazmania in 1831 on convict ship proteus. also looking for his parents so any info would be a great help as now hit a brick wall, if anyone is looking for the farmer name in berkshire /hampshire i would be happy to help as i have traced my surname from now to 1800s.regards malcolm.

[barrie wise]

Hello Mr. Angry,
I had some information for you that you may already have - but you had closed off your thread so I couldn't repy, but I have opened your original post.

No. 466 Jeremiah Farmer, "Proteus", tried at Southampton 18th December 1830, arrived Van Diemen's Land 4th August 1831, 14 years, transported for robbery, gaol report orderly in prison, hulk good, married one child, stated the offence, machine breaker, stealing shoes one month, again one month for leaving master, married one child wife Elizabeth at Uphants? [can't decipher the town].
1st May 1835 charged with parlouring one sheep & making use of bad language - case dismissed. Free certificate 10th February 1852. ref: CON 31 Conduct register, film no. Z2549.

No. 466 Jeremiah Farmer, 5'3", 30, ploughman & shepherd, reap, sow, milk, tried Southampton Special G.D., 18th December 1830, 14 years, native place near Andover, Hants, married, Protestant. Relationships & apprenticeship where last residing: wife Elizabeth at Uphan* [can't decipher town], F & M Wm [don't know], a farm labourer at Furnham, NP LB Abel?, a farm labourer at NP [Native Place], 1 at Uphan?, the other at native place.
Offences: Machine Breaker, for stealing shoes one month, one month again for leaving my master. ref: CON 27 Appropriation lists of convicts, film no. Z2040.

Jeremiah Farmer married Elizabeth Eastman on the 26th February 1826 at Vernham's Dean, Hampshire. Two sons, John baptised 10th August 1828 at Hurstbourne-Tarrant, and William baptised 17th July 1831 at Hurstbourne-Tarrant, Hampshire. One obviously born after the trial.
In Van Diemen's Land Jeremiah married twice, in 1844 to Margaret Carrol [26] at Hamilton, and in 1855 to Mary Fehely [25] at New Norfolk.
He died in Hobart in 1871.

The marriage data and death and any children need verifying from the State Archives!

To get copies of the above convict records to clarify the towns mentioned [you will have more idea than me regarding Hampshire villages], go on line to Tasmanian Archives convict records, enter his name, and this will list the relevant CON numbers, in CON 31 you will find Jeremiah on page 17 & 18, so should be able to decipher the information.

Best of luck, Barrie.

[mr angry]

hello again folks thanks for the replies, i must say a big thank you to barrie and hugh from australia information supplied has been a great help and will look into both marriages to see if any children were born to him, Anyway thanks for welcome and as ever foward yet again. ps hugh can you empty your inbox regards malcolm.

[Coromandel]

Hi Malcolm and welcome to the forum :)

In case you haven't already come across it, I thought I'd mention Jill Chambers' website, 'Swing Riots and Rioters'. It includes a section on the 'Proteus', for most of the convicts on board were machine breakers:

http://www.
swingriotsriotersblacksheepsearch.com/

There may well be further information about Jeremiah in Jill's book, 'Hampshire Machine Breakers'.

[Kerrywood]

As with many machine-breakers, there was a petition for clemency for Jeremiah FARMER (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-5872845&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CJEREMIAH%2CFARMER&accessmethod=0), held at TNA Kew (HO 17/50/78).

This could be worth a look, as such documents often contain valuable family information.

If you can't get there yourself, TNA might send you a copy. From the catalogue entry, click Ordering and Viewing options for information on how to order.

[Hugh Thompson]

Hi Malcolm, thanks and my inbox is now empty!.
Hugh.

[mr angry]

Hi hugh, no worries, with your help and barries i am going foward with the hunt for jeremiahs life in australia and he seems to have been busy married twice so onward to see if any children came from either marriage we will see regards malcolm.

[barrie wise]

Hello Malcolm,

A bit more info for you regarding Jeremiah in Van Diemen's Land. A quick look at the Archives gave a little about him, but a more thorough search may reveal more.
He was working as a shepherd at or near Hamilton in 1844 [one of the agricultural areas that had been established roughly 50 miles from Hobart]. I checked both the Register General Department [RGD] and St. Peter's register for his marriage: Marriages in the District of Hamilton 1844, no. 1451. on the 22nd July 1844 at St. Peter's church Hamilton, Jeremiah Farmer, 45, shepherd, and Margaret Carrol, 26. No other details. ref: RGD 37/1451

Deaths in the district of Hobart 1846, no.1122, on the 3rd August 1846, Margaret Farmer, female, 34 years, labourer's wife, cause of death cold, informant Timothy Carrol, brother, Bathurst Street, Hobart, registerd 7th August. ref: RGD 35/1122. I don't know why she was in Hobart, and where Jeremiah was at the time. Didn't have time to trawl through the numerous Hobart church registers to find any burial information. There are no births listed on the index but that doesn't mean that they had no children, as the index is far from complete.

I assume that Jeremiah was still living in the Derwent Valley area as in 1855 married again. Marriages in the District of New Norfolk 1855, no. 1061, on the 3rd December 1855 at St. Mathew's church, Jeremiah Farmer, 50, farming labourer, and Mary Fehely, 25, domestic servant, registered 3rd December 1855. ref: RGD 37/1061. The church register revealed a bit more info - W. T. Murray was the chaplain, Jeremiah was listed as a widower, Mary was a spinster, and the witnesses were John Walder and Margaret Barnes. Again no record of any births on the index.

Deaths in the District of Hobart 1871, no. 275, on the 1st February 1871, Jeremiah Farmer, died Brickfields Pauper Estate, male, 81 years, born England, pauper, cause of death cancer of the face, informant was the Superindendent of Brickfields, registered 1st March 1871. ref: RGD 35/275.
When he left the Derwent Valley area and entered the pauper's home I don't know, but maybe there are records regarding the institution at the Archives. Didn't see a death for Mary, but that may be in the church burial register.

Hope this helps,
Barrie.

[mr angry]

Hello Barrie,

Again with your help you have filled in more blanks would be good to see if any children were produced from either marriage as can only find one child from his first marriage in the UK. Finding his parents is also proving difficult but dont know whybut will still keep looking. Whilst on another forum came across a gentleman looking for info on my great great grandfather so got in contact with him and it turns out he is related to me and visited my grandparents and parents when he was young, the reason we didnt know of him he was adopted by a new family and taken to Wales. This is a small world.

Thanks for all of your help much appreciated.

Regards Malcolm.

[Sandra Parker]

The following are reports from the newspapers of the day and refer to your chap. You can see, and download, the originals by going to
http://
trove.nla.gov.au

Good luck with your research,
Sandra whose spectacled aura is now happy at having its own convict history.

GOVERNMENT NOTICE, No.61, Colonial Secretary's office, April 4.
The Lieutenant Governor-has received a dlspatch from the Right Honorable the Secretary of State, transmitting her Majesty s warrant, granting pardons to the following convicts, per Eliza and Proteus, of the offences for which they were respectively transported to this .Coíony, on condition that they shall during the whole of such residue of their sentences as remains yet to be undergone and performed, continue to reside within the Island of Van Diemen's Land, viz -
...Jeremiah Farmer...
Trove The Hobart Town Courier (Tas. : 1827 - 1839) Friday 6 April 1838

The Lieutenant Governor has received a Despatch from the Right Honorable the Secretory of State, transmitting her Majesty's Warrant granting nardons to the following convicts per Eliza and Proteus, of the offences for which they were respectively transported to this Colony, on condition that they shall, during the whole of such residue of their sentences as remains yet to be undergone and performed, continue to reside within the Island of Van Diemen's Land :— ... Jeremiah Farmer...
Trove The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880) Saturday 14 April 1838


The periods foi wliich the under-mentioned persons were transported expiring at the date placed after their respective names, certificates of their freedom may be obtained then, or at any subsequent time, upon application at the office of the Comptroller-General of Convicts, Hobart Town, or at that of a Police Magistrate in the interior:— ..Proteus: Jeremiah Farmer 18th Dec 1844.
Trove The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880) Saturday 7 December 1844

Certificates or Freedom Granted.— Jeremiah Farmer
Trove The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880)Saturday 21 February 1852

[barrie wise]

Hello Malcolm,

Went to the Achives today and had a look through the Hamilton and New Norfolk parish registers to see what I could find and came up with the following:

1. Baptisms solemnized in the parish of Hamilton in the County of Monmouth in the year 1845: no.139 baptised on 13th February 1845, John, son of Jeremiah and Margaret Farmer, abode "Allannah"? [a property name in the district], trade or profession shepherd, the ceremony was performed by John Roven? officiating. ref: film Z2864.

2. Marriages in the district of Hobart 1876: no.53 on 22nd February 1876 John Farmer 30, cabman, bachelor and Jane Carpenter 31, daughter of a blacksmith, widow, married by license in the Cathedral Church of St. David, according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England by F. B. Sharland in the presence of George Oaks and Ellen Ingram. Registered on the 22nd February 1876. ref: NS 282/10/1, film Z2248. [neither John or Jane could write]

3. Jane Longey 22 married Frederick Carpenter on the 13th August 1862 in Hobart and had three children, a female in 1863, Georgina Elizabeth in 1866, and Evangaline Florence in 1870.

4. Births in the district of Hobart 1877: no. 2599 on the 22nd February 1877, male [unnamed], father John Farmer, mother Jane Farmer [formerly Longey], profession or trade cab driver, informant was Jane Farmer mother, Liverpool Street, registered 22nd March 1877 by H. Buckland deputy registrar. ref: RGD 33/2599, film Z2405.

5. Baptisms in the year 1877 at St. David's: no. 77 born 15th February 1877?, baptised on 7th May 1877, John George Henry, parents John and Jane Farmer, Liverpool Street, cabman, ceremony performed by A. R. A. Beresford. ref: NS282/8/5 film Z2246.

6. John George Henry Farmer married Henrietta Emeline Gay on 14th September 1900 at Hobart. [can't get the info after 1900, so would have to trawl all the church registers of Hobart to find the actual details]. They had at least one child.

7. Suddenly on July 27 1948 at the Royal Hobart Hospital, John George Henry, dearly beloved husband of Henrietta Farmer of 109 Cresent Road, West Hobart, and loved father of Corella [Mrs. D. Everett], in his 70th year. ref: "The Mercury", 297h July 1948.

8. On October 19, 1948 at her daughter's residence 12 Brayside Cresent, Lower Sandy Bay, Henrietta Alice, beloved wife of the late John George Farmer late of 109 Lansdowne Crescent, and loved and loving mother of Corella [Mrs. D. Everett]. Peacefully sleeping. ref: "The Mercury", 20th October 1948.

9. Corella Irene Everett born c 1905, cremated 13th March 1958, and is interred at Cornelian Bay cemetery with her mother and father. ref: Methodist section FF, no. 256.

Hope this is of some use to you.
Barrie.

[mr angry]

Hello Barrie,

Again i MUST thankyou for your hard work, i did not think that i would be able to find anything about my family in Australia. It now seems that i might have relatives still living there you never know they might be looking for relatives here. So thanks again for your hard work it is much appreciated.

Regards Malcolm.

[janbooth]

In case you have an Ancestry sub, Jeremiah's actual UK Prison Hulk Register entry is on there. It says he was aged 30 on 9 Feb 1831, convicted at Winchester on 18 December 1830 for Robbery, sentenced to 14 years, HOW DISPOSED OF (great way of putting it!) VDL (presumably Van Dieman's Land) 6 April 1831.

There is also a Family Tree on Ancestry for Jeremiah which states that he married an Elizabeth EASTMAN at Andover on 26 February 1826 - might be worth contacting the owner of the Tree. The Tree states that Elizabeth EASTMAN died in 1831 at Andover but shows the birth of a third son Robert in 1835??? FMP confirms the baptism of John FARMER on 10 August 1828 at Hurstbourne Tarrant and 17 July 1831 at Hurstbourne Tarrant of William FARMER, both records show the parents as Jeremiah & Elizabeth FARMER plus the baptism on 19 July 1835 at Hurstbourne Tarrant of Robert FARMER baseborn son of Elizabeth - doesn't sound as if she died in 1831 does it!

There might be another clue in other FARMER baptisms shown on FMP. There are several children of a Thomas & Sarah FARMER, i.e. 22 May 1825 at Vernham Dean Betsy FARMER of Upton, 1 June 1828 at Vernham Dean William FARMER of Upton, 21 November 1830 at Vernham Dean Isaac FARMER of Upton and 26 January 1834 at Hurstbourne Tarrant Eliza FARMER of Ethrop. Given that both Upton & Vernham Dean appear in the information that Barrie has found for you, perhaps Thomas is a relative of your Jeremiah?

Findmypast have a lot of Hampshire records on their website including the parishes of Vernham Dean & Hurstbourne Tarrant so perhaps worth a look?

Janet