Edward and James MARSH

[jpritcha]

Hello all hope that you are all well. Searching for any information on the late James Marsh :surrender: he arrived in Australia onboard the William Prowse in 1853 aged 21 Carpenter. He settled in N.S.W. Australia and married a Charlotte Dewberry at the Parish of Saint James Sydney, Charlotte was a daughter of Mark Dewberry. James Marsh's father was Army Sergeant Edward Marsh from Madras India, his mother was named Mary (surname not known) James Marsh passed away on the 20/6/1913 aged 84 years he was a builder, James's Native place and county was Poomallee East Indies both his parents were deceased when he arrived in Australia :cheers2: born around 1829, would like any help in finding out more about him and family. Thanks a lot for your help. :toetap05:

Janet:surrender:

[birdlip]

Hi Janet,

Family Search has this marriage;

Edward MARSH m Mary RUSHTON 08 May 1822 Bangalore, Madras

[birdlip]

also these births at Madras, India.;

Edward 30 Sep 1824, parents Edward MARSH, Mary.
Mary 24 Aug 1828, parents E, MARSH, Mary.

and this burial at Madras;

Edward b 1825, burial 02 Mar 1826, Father Edward MARSH.

[jpritcha]

Hello Birdlip, thanks for your help, I looked in Family Search and found nothing about James Marsh, is he listed with father and mother I will have another look, I don't seem to have much luck. Edward being a Army Sergeant should be easy to find. Take care.

Janet

[birdlip]

Hello Birdlip, thanks for your help, I looked in Family Search and found nothing about James Marsh, is he listed with father and mother I will have another look, I don't seem to have much luck. Edward being a Army Sergeant should be easy to find. Take care.

Janet

No, I couldn't see your James unfortunately.

[janbooth]

There is also a birth registration on FMP's Army Chaplains Birth Indices of an Elizabeth MARSH at Bengal in 1830 - could this perhaps be another sibling for James. There is also a birth registration at Madras in 1825 for Edward MARSH from the same source.

Edward MARSH snr appears on FMP's Military records. He was apparently born in Maidstone c1794 and enlisted in Madras in 1822. His Military Record can be seen on FMP using their pay per view facility.

This probably cutting it a bit fine for a marriage, given that son Edward was born at the end of September 1824, but there is a marriage on Family Search at Boughton Monchelsea (pretty close to Maidstone) on 12 July 1824 of an Edward MARSH & a Mary BASSETT. No, scrub that one, how about this marriage also on Family Search on 8 May 1822 at Bangalore, Madras of Edward MARSH & Mary RUSHTON - sounds more like it, doesn't it!

Janet

[jpritcha]

Thanks Birdlip and Janbooth for your help in finding out information for me, it gives me a lot of hope in finding my ancestors, have a good and safe weekend to you both.

Janet

[jpritcha]

Janbooth and birdclip, How are you both? Found James Marsh birth date 29/1/1828 East India Register, the entry was interesting The lady of Lieut. Edward Marsh of a son. No mention of wife Mary. Apparently Edward Marsh was a Sergeant HM 54th Regt when his son Edward was buried in 1826. James Marsh's entry hasn't got a LDS film Ref, so I guess their is no point in searching their Web page. I may have to search in The British Library or the Nationalarchives Gov.uk I sometimes have trouble here in finding the right details on where to look. How would I search in the Maidstone Kent area? and FMP site. Hope that you both have a safe and good weekend.

Regards, Janet

[janbooth]

You can take out a pay per view subscription to FMP. Click on to "Search Records" box, then Armed Forces & Conflict, then Search all Military Records. Enter in the name of Edward MARSH and 1822 onwards in the date field, then British Army Service Records 1760-1915 and up will pop Edward MARSH born c1794, Maidstone Kent 54th Foot. Click on the view original images and up will come his service record (2 pages).

As for finding his baptismal record in Maidstone, I'm afraid I do not know that area at all. It might be a good idea to put a request on the Kent section of the Forum giving the details you have for Edward to see if any members with local knowledge can help in any way. Good luck

Janet

[jpritcha]

Hello Janbooth, thanks for your help, couldn't get into FMP their were so many adds and different web pages, I tried Find my Past and it was the wrong Edward Marsh not born in Kent so I changed my mind. This is hard for me to search anything my computer has a slow memory and needs updating is their any other way to purchase these records. Thanking you once again you words are not enough for all the help you have given me.

Janet

[janbooth]

Janet,

You could try The National Archives website. Once you are on the Home page, click on the Records tab. This brings up a Quick Links list on the right hand side of the page and click on The Catalogue and then on Search the Catalogue. Enter Edward Marsh into "Word or Phrase", 1822 to 1861 into "Year Range" and WO into "Department or Series code". This will then bring up 2 records for Edward MARSH and you want to click on the second one WO/97/674/33. You will then get a summary of his record and this will enable you to click on "Ordering and Viewing options" and from there you should be able to fill in an online order form to obtain his record. It looks as though TNA give you an estimate of the cost before you definitely order the document but do check that I have this fact correct before placing an order.

Janet

[jpritcha]

Hello Janbooth, once again thanks for your help, I should employ you to search for all my ancestors, hope you have a great day and take care.

Janet

[jpritcha]

:yes: Hello everyone I hope this finds you all well. Its a hot day here where I live. I am now trying to find Mary Rushton who married Sgt. Edward Marsh in Bangalore India on the 8/5/1822, they had children Edward, Mary and James that I know of.:sosp: I know that Edward Marsh travelled from Kent England to India where he met and married Mary Rushton, |help| I would love to find out more about her and her ancestors, I have tried the LDS History Centre here with no luck.:banghead: Thanks ever so much for your past help with other hard cases, hoping you can help me again, you don't know how much I appreciate all of this support in finding my ancestors.:seeya:

Regards,
Janet:biggrin:

[Jan1954]

Hello Janet,

Have you tried the Families in British India Society at all? (aka FIBIS)
http://www.
new.fibis.org/

[jpritcha]

Hello Jan1954 Thanks for your help but I had no luck with searching for Mary Rushton, I seem to be going around in circles all the time. I wonder if they have a baptism record on a CD that I could purchase this is the only way to go.

Regards,
Janet

[Kerrywood]

I am now trying to find Mary Rushton who married Sgt. Edward Marsh in Bangalore India on the 8/5/1822

A few questions ...

Have you seen a copy of the original 1822 marriage record, either from the LDS film or the British Library? If so, was Mary a spinster or a widow?

Have you seen Edward MARSH's service record (as identified by Janbooth on your other thread) and noted the three different regiments that he served in?

Do you have a death record for Mary?

A few thoughts ...

Many women in India married within the regiment. Also, many soldiers died there, and their widows remarried within the regiment. That's why it would be useful to know Mary's status in 1822.

Depending on the answer to that, you could have the muster lists checked for all Edward MARSH's regiments at that period, to see if there is anyone named RUSHTON who might be the father or former husband of Mary. This would have to be done at the National Archives, Kew. We don't know where you live, but if it's a hot day there, you probably don't have access to Kew! So you might consider engaging a researcher.

Just as a very long shot, FamilySearch has the death of a Daniel RUSTON (sic) aged 38 in 1819 at Poonamallee, which I believe is where James MARSH was born. Admittedly that was later, and Poonamallee was a large garrison. But if Mary was a widow, it might be worth thinking about.

[jpritcha]

Hello great helpers, I live in Australia on the North Coast of N.S.W. So far I hoped to receive the copy of Edward's and Mary's marriage in 1822 Bangalore Madras and their son James birth date, the person that I am connected to. I don't know if these copies will show parents of the couple or not. As I have searched in both Apac. enquiries and Fibis with no luck and the Kew library for his records also with no luck as they have replied to my enquiry about copying Edward's history. I didn't think that his records wouldn't be available to anyone else except his ancestors. Thanks for your help I will keep on searching, take care.

Regards,
Janet

[jpritcha]

Hello everyone a Happy New Year to you all, just a quick message still searching for any records of the late Edward Marsh, I have just had a quick look on the CD's of Kent and couldn't find anything about him, is there other areas around Maidston that he could have come from :biggrin5:

Janet

[Kerrywood]

Reviewing this thread, I'm still not clear if you have accessed Edward's army service record?

Have you now seen Edward and Mary's marriage record? If so, what exactly does it say?


I have just had a quick look on the CD's of Kent and couldn't find anything about him, is there other areas around Maidston that he could have come from

Which CDs of Kent? If you can tell us exactly which parishes have been searched, those who know the area may be able to suggest others where you could look.

[jpritcha]

Hello everyone thanks for your reply, the CD's from kent are from Maidstone,Crundale Willesborough, and most of the areas from Badlesmere to Woodchurch C.M.B. Maidstone All Saints, St. Mich. according to the marriage between Edward and Mary, he was a batchelor and she was a spinister, the chaplain for the marriage was a Ualkin? its hard with the signature are lot were married by him. A Joseph Wright performed the baptism on James Marsh. I haven't seen Edward Marsh's service record as I said before I did not have any luck in FindMyPast they somehow refused my Debit card, and the Archives at Kew are not allowing any permission on searching for his records either. I live in Australia and thinking of asking a researcher to help me. Thanks again to you all for your help.

Janet

[jpritcha]

Happy New Year to you all. I now have copies of Sgt. Edward Marsh's marriage to Mary Rushton on 8/5/1822 Edward was a batchelor and Mary a Spinister married in the Church of Bangalore by Chaplain, James Marsh baptism 6/2/1831 Poonamallee father Edward and mother Mary by Joseph Wright Chaplain. I couldn't search in FIBIS today my computer really plays up. I will try and search for Mary Marsh, Jame's sister her birth was on the 24/8/1828 I might be lucky in finding her. Thanks to all.

Janet

[Dizzy600]

Hi Janet,

I have had a look at Edward Marsh's Military record on findmypast and it relates to his discharge. If you private message me (click on my username at the side) with your email address I can send you the details.

Karen

[jpritcha]

Hello Dizzy600, Happy New Year to you and thanks for your reply message, I happen to have Edward Marsh's Military record, burial date, but not his wife Mary Marsh (nee Rushton) she raised baby James all by herself till he migrated to Australia onboard the William Prowse which I also have in 1849 both of his parents were deceased by this date. I am hoping that Mary Marsh who was born in 1828 has some ancestors around might see this message.

Regards,
Janet