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Mary Young
28-09-2004, 8:43 PM
Hi, Rod
(Thought I'd start a new thread - just for fun!)
Will I be able to download individual messages (to keep on my computer for reference - I won't always have access to the Board).
Mary Young
Edinburgh, Scotland

Colbara
28-09-2004, 8:45 PM
That's a good point Mary.

Although I suppose we could cut and paste what we want to keep and put into a word document.

regards
Barbara

Mary Young
28-09-2004, 8:59 PM
Aargh, cut'n'paste is back to the Middle Ages. I have archived hundreds of List mails, they are all in folders and ready for use. If I print or copy any of them into my family tree program, , of course it has a full header with the sender's name, email and date.

Mary Young
28-09-2004, 9:01 PM
Now I have this thread running, how do I know when there are replies? Am I supposed to stare at the one thread all day <vbg>. When I could be in the bath with a glass of wine and a good book!

Londonwhay
28-09-2004, 9:03 PM
Now I have this thread running, how do I know when there are replies? Am I supposed to stare at the one thread all day <vbg>. When I could be in the bath with a glass of wine and a good book!
Often a quick 'refresh' will show new replies - but then returning after a glass of wine and a good book works just as well. :D

Colbara
28-09-2004, 9:11 PM
Aargh, cut'n'paste is back to the Middle Ages. I have archived hundreds of List mails, they are all in folders and ready for use. If I print or copy any of them into my family tree program, , of course it has a full header with the sender's name, email and date.Mary

Please could you point me the way to do this, it does seem much easier.

regards
Barbara

Many thanks to Mary for letting me know how to do this

Mary Young
28-09-2004, 9:16 PM
OK, so I must keep returning to the Board looking for new messages??
Guess this calls for positive, repeated action from the Board member - not great if one has various interests, you have to keep hopping from one Board to another. I'd rather download List mail once or twice a day, you can skim thru and delete most of it in a coupla minutes. Then reply and/or archive the rest.

Mary Young
28-09-2004, 9:25 PM
Replying by personal email.

Rod Neep
28-09-2004, 11:01 PM
OK, so I must keep returning to the Board looking for new messages??
Guess this calls for positive, repeated action from the Board member - not great if one has various interests, you have to keep hopping from one Board to another. I'd rather download List mail once or twice a day, you can skim thru and delete most of it in a coupla minutes. Then reply and/or archive the rest.
No.... look in your personal profile and then *subscribe* to a forum.

Then you have various options, such as "send me notifications of new posts" to this forum..... or new threads....

and you can even turn that on for just one topic within a forum....

and have the notifications sent to you:
a. immediately
b. daily
c. weekly.

It is all *ever so* configurable! ... to suit *your* own needs.

And.... when you receive the notification, all you have to do is click on it to go straight to that thread or message.

And if in doubt... see the FAQ.

Rod

Mary Young
28-09-2004, 11:35 PM
... *subscribe* to a forum. Then you have various options, such as "send me notifications of new posts" to this forum..... or new threads....

and you can even turn that on for just one topic within a forum....

and have the notifications sent to you:
a. immediately
b. daily
c. weekly.
Rod

Thanks, Rod
Sorry if I seem obtuse, this all new stuff to this oldie :-) But I know how get notifications of new posts - what I want to do, is *download* the entire message, so I can store on HD (as I can at present with List Mail). It seems the only option with Boards, is to cut-n-paste into wordprocessor, and then save, any message I want to keep.. seriously tedious. (And of course it won't carry the subject line, date and sender detail which presently comes with an email). Or is there a work-around?

Rod Neep
29-09-2004, 4:43 AM
Yes.... subscribe to each (or certain) *threads* within a forum that interest you, and turn notification on as "immediate" for each of them.

Thread notification will then send you a copy of each message as an e-mail. See at the top of this thread is Thread Tools... there you can subscribe to the thread... or "email this message" to yourself.

But what you are trying to do, which isn't really necessary, is make it act like a mailing list. The messages are all still here.

Regards
Rod

Mary Young
29-09-2004, 11:29 AM
But what you are trying to do, which isn't really necessary, is make it act like a mailing list. The messages are all still here.
Thanks for advice on making it act like a mailing list.
1) This may not be necessary for some people, but it is for me. "The messages are all still here" isn't much good if you can't access them easily. I am not always at the other end of a broadband connection ... or even any connection at all!
So I need the important messages stored on my hard disk, transferred to my laptop for reference etc.
2) I have subscribed to a Thread and set for immediate notification. A notification arrives, carrying a great deal of "extra" text, including this
"There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."
So it seems I will not receive notification of every individual message.

Maureen
29-09-2004, 11:21 PM
[QUOTE=Rod Neep].... or "email this message" to yourself.

When I tried this it seemed to want to send a link to this page, not the actual message :confused: .

jeannie
30-09-2004, 8:42 AM
Thanks for advice on making it act like a mailing list.
1) This may not be necessary for some people, but it is for me. "The messages are all still here" isn't much good if you can't access them easily. I am not always at the other end of a broadband connection ... or even any connection at all!
So I need the important messages stored on my hard disk, transferred to my laptop for reference etc.
2) I have subscribed to a Thread and set for immediate notification. A notification arrives, carrying a great deal of "extra" text, including this
"There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."
So it seems I will not receive notification of every individual message.
Hi Mary, I agree with you, it's hopeless, and to make matters worse it only sends you a notification immediately if you subscribe to each thread - you won't know about any new ones. If you subscribe to the forum you can only get a summary message each day, with time-consuming links to threads. In the time it has taken to look at two updated threads on the one forum my computer has downloaded and searched hundreds of mailing list messages, colour highlighted those with names/places of interest and filed the rest in county folders on the drive for perusal later. Game set and match to mailing lists I think!

Mary Young
30-09-2004, 9:19 AM
Hi, Jeannie
Amen to everything you say!
According to Rod, you can request notification of each new thread but that's just more time wasted, diddering back and forth. (You even have to scroll through forum announcement to get to the meat in the notification).
I have spent much time in the last 2 days scrolling about in this Test Forum. One seems to review the same messages over and over! The telling thing is, the total number of posts at this moment is only 92 !!!
I keep finding more disadvantages - no way to draft replies - you must cut-n-paste from a word-processor (back to the Ark!)
Seems to me, a Forum may be OK if it's quiet - it might tempt a new user to join a group. But hopeless for large volume.
(Colour coding your mail sounds neat - how do you do that?)

Mary Young
30-09-2004, 10:36 AM
[QUOTE=Rod Neep].... or "email this message" to yourself.
When I tried this it seemed to want to send a link to this page, not the actual message :confused: .
Hi, Maureen
Where did Rod say you can email this message to yourself? I tried searching this forum for those words, but couldn't find them.

Maureen
30-09-2004, 12:57 PM
Hi, Maureen
Where did Rod say you can email this message to yourself? I tried searching this forum for those words, but couldn't find them.
Yesterday 1:43pm (that woukd be Eastern Australian Non-Daylight Saving Time <g>), in reply to your message that started "Thanks, Rod Sorry if I seem..."

Rod Neep
30-09-2004, 1:07 PM
Look ladies :)

Stop trying to make it all act like a mailing list. It isn't!

You seem intent on criticising the system because it is doing what it is supposed to do.

The simple way to save some information from a post here, is to copy and paste it into something else. If you ever need to.
Rod

Londonwhay
30-09-2004, 3:00 PM
Hi, Jeannie
Seems to me, a Forum may be OK if it's quiet - it might tempt a new user to join a group. But hopeless for large volume.

I have to disagree with you Mary, I belong to forums that sometimes get hundreds of posts a day. I just scroll through the threads and read the ones I'm interested in, (shows the importance of starting new threads if need be.) You can sonn get used to looking at the last post and scrolling backwards if you have missed more than one, or click the link in your notification email and it will take you to that reply, from which you can carry on and read all the new replies. Forums do differ from mailing lists and tend to be much more of a community than mailing lists. If I want to save a forum message, it is quite easy to copy and paste it to a word processor - in fact this is exactly what I do with email texts I want to save.

G

jeannie
30-09-2004, 4:12 PM
Hi, Jeannie
Amen to everything you say! According to Rod, you can request notification of each new thread but that's just more time wasted, diddering back and forth.
<snip>
(Colour coding your mail sounds neat - how do you do that?)
Hi Mary
You can do it easily if you are using Outlook Express -
Go to Tools - Message Rules - Mail - New

Click the boxes for "Where the message body contains specific words" and 'Where the To line contains people'

Then set up the words to look for e.g. 'palmer' or 'johnson' or 'watkins' (your surnames for that county)
and which county lists e.g. 'eng-london@british-genealogy.com' ('eng-london@british-genealogy.com') or 'eng-middx@british-genealogy.com' ('eng-middx@british-genealogy.com') or 'londonlist@anotherlist.com' ('londonlist@anotherlist.com') (more than one list is OK)

Then select the action to take e.g.
'Highlight it with colour' and pick a colour, or Move it to a specified folder, etc.

Hope this helps, Kind Regards

Mary Young
30-09-2004, 4:58 PM
Thanks for info. on colour coding, I hadn't realised it could be done in OE.

Mary Young
30-09-2004, 5:01 PM
Look ladies :)

Stop trying to make it all act like a mailing list. It isn't!

You seem intent on criticising the system because it is doing what it is supposed to do.

The simple way to save some information from a post here, is to copy and paste it into something else. If you ever need to.
Rod
Well, Rod, thanks for the rap over the knuckles. I thought this Forum was for us to try out the format, but you have obviously made up our mind that we should see all the benefits and none of the drawbacks.

Rod Neep
30-09-2004, 5:07 PM
No... it wasn't a rap on the knuckles... sorry if it came over that way. But my point still stands.... it isn't a mailing list system, and isn't intended to act like one. Therefore you won't be able to make it act like one.

Rod