George Sparkes, assistance with 1911 census

[topo60]

My Great Grand Uncle, George Sparkes, was billeted in Mulingar in 1880s with the 5th Regiment of Foot (later to become the Northumberland Fusiliers). He met his Wife in Mulingar and presumably left the army. The 1911 census shows him living in Castleknock and working as a night porter. The census returns show:-

Household Return Form A (Page 2) shows
County:- Dublin
Poor Law Union :- North Dublin
District :- Castleknock
Barony :- Castleknock
Townland :- Castleknock
No on Form B. :- 38

House & Building Return shows
Name of Landowner :- Lord Iveagh

My questions are

1.The lack of a street/road seems to indicate a small settlement built by the Landowner Lord Iveagh. Can anyone please explain his estate holdings and houses?

2. Has anyone a map showing the position of the row of houses.

3. How can I access their death records?

This and any other information which assists me in tracing his family would be appreciated.


Thanks

J Swinsco

[olliecat]

The 1911 census shows him living in Castleknock and working as a night porter. The

Is this the family in the 1911 Ireland Census?

Residents of a house 38 in Castleknock (Castleknock, Dublin)
Sparkes, George Percy, 53 Head, Church of Ireland, Meddirex London, Night Porter, married 27 years
Sparkes Fanny, 48, Wife, Church of Ireland, Co Westmeath, married 27 years

[olliecat]

My Great Grand Uncle, George Sparkes, was billeted in Mulingar in 1880s with the 5th Regiment of Foot (later to become the Northumberland Fusiliers). He met his Wife in Mulingar and presumably left the army.

His army service records could be useful. Do you have them? There are records for a George SPARKES, born abt 1852 at St Johns, London. Attested to the 5th Foot in 1871. WO97 / 3922 / 164

You can download his records from the pay/subscription site findmypast.

[Pam Downes]

If George and his wife died in Ireland, then the Familysearch Beta site has Ireland, Civil registration indexes 1845-1958 which you can search.
https://www.familysearch.org/
scroll down about an inch and a half so you can see 'browse by location', click Europe.
Then scroll down to Ireland, click civil registration indexes.
Pam

[olliecat]

3. How can I access their death records?

There is this death record...

name: George Percy Sparks
registration district: Dublin South
event type: DEATHS
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1918
estimated birth year: 1856
age (at death): 62
volume number: 2
record title: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
(from family search)

One option would be for you to order a copy of the cert from GRO Roscommon. www. groireland.ie/
If you want, you can ask for a research copy which is cheaper than the full formal certificate.

[Coromandel]

Has anyone a map showing the position of the row of houses.

You could try the Historic Map Archive on the Ordnance Survey Ireland site. Go to http:// maps.osi.ie/publicviewer and click on Search in the right-hand menu to search by placename. Once you've found the right place on a modern map, you can switch to various old maps.

[topo60]

There is this death record...

name: George Percy Sparks
registration district: Dublin South
event type: DEATHS
registration quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1918
estimated birth year: 1856
age (at death): 62
volume number: 2
record title: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
(from family search)

One option would be for you to order a copy of the cert from GRO Roscommon. www. groireland.ie/
If you want, you can ask for a research copy which is cheaper than the full formal certificate.

Thanks for this info, I'll look into getting the certificates. Yes you have the correct George Sparkes in the 1911 census, now I just need to understand more about housing in Castleknock.

[grisel]

I don't know how the enumerators worked in Ireland in 1911 - but the Sparkes were 38 on the schedule and at no 40 was the Mount Sackville Convent (which seems to be around still). Not at all sure if the two properties were geograhically close or not.

[grisel]

Looking again at the schedule, and to try and place no38, the large houses seem to be no 14, 28, 33, 40, 44, 47.

No 47 may be a vicarage as has Rev Charles OH Mease.
No 33 must be big - 70 rooms. In 1911 head Frances Edwards housekeeper. - but in 1911 Frances Edwards seemed to be housekeeper to Baron Edward Cecil Iveagh! (I think probably in the same property though the schedule no is completely different)

aka Edward Cecil Guinness

Looks like the Guinness house was called Farmleigh

[grisel]

So - possibly - George's house was on the Farmleigh estate somewhere between Farmleigh (SE arm of White's Rd) and the convent(Tower Rd) Unfortunately that part of White's Rd is off limit for Google maps streetview. That's assuming the enumerator visited them in some sort of sensible order which might not be the case!

[Coromandel]

Yes, 100 years after the 1911 census, Mount Sackville Convent is still a community of the Sisters of St Joseph of Cluny. Its address is Chapelizod, Dublin 20, just on the edge of Phoenix Park.

The Guinness house at Farmleigh was bought by the Irish Government in 1999. You can go on a virtual tour here:
http:// www.
farmleigh.ie/VisitorInformation/

P.S. it might be instructive to look up the household schedules for George's neighbours in 1911: were they all perhaps employees of the Guinness family, living in tied cottages or similar? I have only looked up two so far, but both could have been estate workers (Andrew Morton, land steward; and Charles Nichols, gardener).