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nannyval
20-10-2010, 9:32 PM
Despite avid attempts to find, this is becoming more than just a thorn in my side....a real mystery.
With the generous help of a couple of the forum members......this is the address given on birth certificate.
I am now wishing to find any area directory, county directory to show me the numbers from 1 -50 Colebrooke Row. 1908 -1910
As the other details from this certificate are not 100% to be believed, suggested house number 14 could be 41
My hope is to find out, if all of these were residential dwellings
I have read the relevent historical records of the initial building, various rebuilds and changes in name.
Its a longshot, but who knows.
All of the relevent searches have been covered using the normal
online sources available.
Forever hopeful
Val
Geoffers
20-10-2010, 9:52 PM
The best and most complete listing for the Row around this time would be the 1911 census which can be found on the pay-per-view site 'findmypast'.
Colebrooke Row (spelt several different ways) is shown in Islington in the census. The enumerator's list will show whether properties were residential or commercial
Other than that, is there anything that my be of use on the historical-directories web-site, or for sale on CD via The Parish Chest (www.parishchest.com)?
British Viking
20-10-2010, 9:54 PM
Hi
You did'nt say which online sources you have tried so far. Have you tried Kelly's Directory which I believe is now online? If it's any help at all, as I live fairly near there, if there's any photos you want taken I'll happily oblige - although I'm rather busy at the moment! I recall seeing in some local bookshops little fold up maps of the area throughout the years so that might be another avenue you could explore to check changes through the years?
malcolm99
20-10-2010, 10:08 PM
All of the relevent searches have been covered using the normal
online sources available.
Don't forget Google Streetview - Colebrooke Row's still there: it'll give you a good idea of what it was like.
Mutley
20-10-2010, 10:12 PM
As Geoffers has said, the 1911 address search on FMP is probably your best bet. Sadly we are not allowed to give the details on here due to copyright, it may be worth you investing in a few credits.
I think I can tell you that number 14 appears to be a residential property and number 41 does not get a mention.
nannyval
20-10-2010, 10:13 PM
Hi British Viking,
Thats a very generous offer...I would, if and when convenient be happy to know the name of the bookshop and contact details, so I can explore the map suggestion..... will pm.
Regards Val
nannyval
20-10-2010, 10:20 PM
Hello Mutley and Geofers,
You've hit the nail on the head...41 seems to be, what should be the correct details on birth cert....thats why I wish to find out what type of property.
If it existed, was is a hospital, nursing home or any other type of institution.........then I think it would still be shown.
Jellylegs
20-10-2010, 10:33 PM
If you do an address search on FMP, just enter Islington in the "Residential Place" box. Go to page 14, then half way down the page click on Colbrook Row (note the spelling as there are various ones) - No. 41 is on that listing.
Kerrywood
20-10-2010, 10:43 PM
is there anything that my be of use on the historical-directories web-site
I followed Geoffers' suggestion and searched the London Post Office Directory for 1899 (Part 4: Trades & Professional Directory) using 41 Colebrooke Row as the search term.
historicaldirectories.org (put www. in front)
In 1899 this was the address of one Elizabeth GANNEY, who is listed as an accoucheuse (a midwife). Perhaps she was still there in later years?
Mutley
20-10-2010, 10:59 PM
Perhaps you could give us the name on the birth certificate, it may help eliminate some of the addresses.
nannyval
20-10-2010, 11:03 PM
Wow, getting nearer to the result.....if not her, maybe another. Thank you
Kerrywood
20-10-2010, 11:05 PM
The 1915 Post Office directory (Part 3, Commercial and Professional) shows another midwife at 41 Colebrooke Row - Mrs Mary MURPHY.
nannyval
20-10-2010, 11:06 PM
Thanks Mutley, but this has already been intensely checked by 2 of our fellow members....will keep at it...going with No. 41 as being the address to focus on.
nannyval
20-10-2010, 11:13 PM
Just had a thought, if now, (as shown by you all) midwives were living at this address..1899 ~ 1915 surely it must be a registered maternity unit of some kind......so back to hospital, nursing home theory....What you think ? Run by the LCC, or Local Council, Private or Charity owned.
Kerrywood
20-10-2010, 11:32 PM
Or perhaps a private midwifery practice? Your best bet will probably be to email Islington Local History Centre (http://www.islington.gov.uk/leisure/localhistory/localhistorycentre/) and ask them.
nannyval
20-10-2010, 11:41 PM
Thats even better than I had hoped.
Had my head in British History online....researching Islington institutions.Thank goodness for highlighting.
Thank you to all....2 heads are better than one....and I was lucky I had more than just 2 !!!
British Viking
21-10-2010, 1:21 AM
Forgot to mention there's an excellent local history section in the Islington library at St John's Street (closed on Wednesdays) If ever you're in that area go in there where I'm sure the staff will be only too eager to help you. I've tried to find the phone number in the Yellow Pages for you but can't find it...you get lost when it says "see....."
keith.robinson
21-10-2010, 11:00 AM
Both 14 and 41 still exist and all buildings look to be of housing not business type. Interestingly, all the houses are numbered odd and even on the same side. No's 37, 38, 39 & 40 look to be recently demolished. According to the Charles Booth Online Archive it was coloured red meaning it was a "well to do area" the houses were listed as 3 1/2 stories, some with attics. 1 & 2 servants. The New river flowed in front of the houses, but was being covered over.
malcolm99
21-10-2010, 12:06 PM
Forgot to mention there's an excellent local history section in the Islington library at St John's Street (closed on Wednesdays)
http://www.islington.gov.uk/leisure/localhistory/localhistorycentre/
Kerrywood
21-10-2010, 1:33 PM
Forgot to mention there's an excellent local history section in the Islington library at St John's Street (closed on Wednesdays)
http://www.islington.gov.uk/leisure/localhistory/localhistorycentre/
As already suggested in post #15, and picked up by nannyval in post #16. :wink5:
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