ROBERT BARNETT

[JenJill]

My brickwall is Robert Barnett b.1791 Wiltshire, England. I have minimal information from the Wiltshire Parish Records. He married Jane Swain in Hilperton Parish in 1813. I have Hilperton Parish and Castle Combe
Parish records.

He appears in the 1841 Census with his family in Hilperton, Witshire, England. Name is mispelled Barrett.

Wife Jane Swain b. 1785 Castle Combe
children:
William b. 1814 Hilperton
Mark b. 1816 Hilperton
Giles b. 1819 Hilperton
Luke b. 1821 Hilperton
Jane b. 1824 Hilperton

By 1851 Census Jane Barnett is a widow. I have Robert's Death certificate he died 1847 in Hilperton.

I have everything going forward from the 1841 census, but I cannot find out where exactly Robert was born and who his parents are. There are many people on many sites who have guessed many different things but no one can prove anything. Any suggestions how to get further back or prove birthplace greatly appreciated.:detective:

[carolchipp]

Have you seen this submitted entry from LDS?
Robert Barnett (parents Robert and Mary) Bapt. 29th May 1791 Steeple Ashton Wiltshire - that's only a few miles from Hilperton. It might be a starting point.

[carolchipp]

The above (according to the same source) had siblings James, Jane, Richard and Mary - another possible line of enquiry.

[JenJill]

Thank you I had seen that first entry. I have been trying to locate those parents. I did find a Robert Barnett and Mary Prince married in Wem, Shropshire 1764. Could never prove it other than what had been entered in LDS.

[Kerrywood]

He married Jane Swain in Hilperton Parish in 1813. I have Hilperton Parish and Castle Combe Parish records.

Are the marriage witnesses any help?

[JenJill]

Unfortunately I don't have witnesses to the marriage. Just their names and the date of marriage from the Wiltshire Parish records.
provided by the clerk, and also the baptism date of some of their children. It's really hard before 1837 isn't it. Thank you for the thought, would be great to have the witnesses.

[Kerrywood]

Unfortunately I don't have witnesses to the marriage. Just their names and the date of marriage from the Wiltshire Parish records.
provided by the clerk, and also the baptism date of some of their children. It's really hard before 1837 isn't it. Thank you for the thought, would be great to have the witnesses.

You really do need to see the entry in the marriage register. The record office will send you a copy.

wshc.eu/about-wshc/archives/173.html (put www. in front)

You could alternatively hire a film, but LDS have apparently filmed only the bishops' transcripts, which might not show the witnesses.

[JenJill]

Hi Kerrywood,

I have tried everywhich way to enter that e-mail addy and it will not take it. I am in USA is that different from stateside.

Thanks,

[JenJill]

How silly of me, I misunderstood your message Kerrywood, will keep you posted on my results.

Thanks again for the information.

[pwholt]

There are definitely BARRETTs at Steeple Ashton but there are also BERRETTs and other spellings as well, so bear that in mind. I don't think it is likely that the Wem, Shropshire marriage is connected, certainly not without some written evidence. You have not indicated whether you have done any work with the names Mark, Giles and Luke. These names given the sons of Robert are unusual in the first place, but in a cluster could be your best bet to finding the right Robert, as this is still early enough for the names to have come from his side of the family. pw

[JenJill]

Hello and thank you for responding,

Yes have searched them all and their descendants. Have much information on all their immigration to USA Giles and Luke that is, information I have is all confirmed and sourced. I have searched Mark and his wife Sarah birth to death, their 2 sons in Hilperton, to 1911 census. I have traced Robert's brother James b. 1794 in West Ashton and His wife Sarah and children as one of his daughter's Rachael married Giles son of Robert may 01, 1842 in Trowbridge.

Originally in the 1841 census they were written as Barrett in Hilperton, because all the certificates I obtained from UK said Barnett, and the Hilperton Parish Records ,which I have list, them as Barnett. I went with that spelling.

[pwholt]

I wasn't meaning the sons of Robert. I was referring to the possibility that he had brothers or uncles of those same names. Through the 1700s and earlier, families tended to use the same first names for their children, and it can be these names which are leads to the correct family to follow further back.
I think you might need to check for both forms of the name, Barnett and Barrett as well as alternate spellings as you search further back. Spelling was not yet fixed, and the local accent could be misunderstood. The clerks tended to spell as they thought it should be, which means there is no consistent spelling of some names. pw

[JenJill]

Thank you once again PW I was just starting looking at that possibility. Excellent advice. That's why I am glad I connected with this forum. Learned many things in just a few posts. This forum worth it's weight in gold already.

[warncoort]

I'm also chasing a Samuel Barnett born in same time frame without success for now.If you use familysearch.org then the beta site
beta.familysearch.org there may be something to help you there.

[JenJill]

Thank you for reminding me of the Beta search. I am going to try the spelling variations to see if something different comes up.