Dunnicliffs in the US Civil War

[Russell Woodward]

Ia m trying to locate information on the following individuals who fought in the US Civil War

William Dunnicliff - 10th New York Infantry
Edward Dunnicliff - 11th Pennsylvania Infantry, also 90th and 96th

James Dunnicliff(e) - 1st Regiment US Cavalry
George Dunnicliff(e) - 2nd Regiment Dragoons- poss pre civil war

James Dunnicliffe - 8th Louisiana

Please can any member give me guidance where i can easily obtain information for these individuals

Regards


Russell

[Geoffers]

Ia m trying to locate information on the following individuals who fought in the US Civil War
William Dunnicliff - 10th New York Infantry
Edward Dunnicliff - 11th Pennsylvania Infantry, also 90th and 96th
James Dunnicliff(e) - 1st Regiment US Cavalry
George Dunnicliff(e) - 2nd Regiment Dragoons- poss pre civil war
James Dunnicliffe - 8th Louisiana

Another thread on this board gives a useful URL you might try:
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2568

Geoffers
Charlbury, Oxfordshire

[Russell Woodward]

Thanks Geoffers for your reply

I have already been on this thread - it unfortunately does not give me any other information than i have already listed

Although the James Dunnicliff(e) is spelt Donnycliff(e)

Do you know of any further locations in which i can look

Regards


Russell

[nemisis]

try the national parks,or cwss, civil war soldiers and sailors,the addy is in cyddislist

[Russell Woodward]

Dear Ray

Thank you for your reply

Please can you explain

What the Addys in the Cyddislist is ?

Russell

[GeoffD]

Probably a bit late, but I am guessing that the problematic phrase translates to

The address is in Cyndislist.

[DebbieAnn]

According to information from Ancestry, William A. Dunnicliff, Company C 10th N.Y. infantry, recieved a pension for service in the Civil War. He appears to have been an invalid (injured and unable to serve?) at that time (30 Nov. 1886 - might be 1896). Ancestry has a copy you can save to your files.

Edward A. Dunnicliff, Company C 11th and Company A 90th infantry, Illinois recieved a pension in July 1890 for the benefit of his widow Bridget (same source), which means he died before this date. The pension request was filed from Illinois, so the widow probably lived there.

Debbie

[Russell Woodward]

According to information from Ancestry, William A. Dunnicliff, Company C 10th N.Y. infantry, recieved a pension for service in the Civil War. He appears to have been an invalid (injured and unable to serve?) at that time (30 Nov. 1886 - might be 1896). Ancestry has a copy you can save to your files.

Edward A. Dunnicliff, Company C 11th and Company A 90th infantry, Illinois recieved a pension in July 1890 for the benefit of his widow Bridget (same source), which means he died before this date. The pension request was filed from Illinois, so the widow probably lived there.

DebbieDear Debbie Ann

Many thanks for your information, it is most useful

It has turned out that William Dunniccliff used a false middle name "Angus" when joining up. He did so without his parents approval

Edward A Dunnicliff - i have less infomation on so i will keep digging

I have found 2 others that were involved in the War

George Dunnicliff
James Dunnicliff

Both enlisted in 1858 for 5 years - i believe one mustered out whilst the other i think deserted - Do you have any information on these 2 - i think they joined in Pennsylvannia - it must have been just prior to the War

Many thanks


Russell

[DebbieAnn]

The 1860 census lists only 1 Wiiliam Dunnicliff, 1 George Dunnicliff and 1 James Dunnicliff, and they are residing together in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:

William Dunnicliff, 30, Brick Layer,Philadelphia
Margaret Dunnicliff, 25, ,Philadelphia
Margaret Dunnicliff, 6, ,Philadelphia
John Dunnicliff, 3, ,Philadelphia
Ellen Dunnicliff, 1, ,Philadelphia
Thomas Dunnicliff, 21, Marine,Philadelphia
George Dunnicliff, 19, (can't read - looks like Prentice Macked?), Philadelphia
James Dunnicliff, 30, (ditto), Philadelphia

In the 1870 census, Margaret (William's wife) was living with her daughters Margaret and Ellen in the home of James McConahey, age 66 (her father?) in Philadelphia.

In 1880 Margaret is living alone with her daughters Margaret and Ella.

Debbie

[DebbieAnn]

In 1880, Edward Dunnicliff is living at 107 Gurley Street, Chicago, Illinois:

Edward Dunnicliff, 34, ,Machinist, b: Pennsylvania, father b: England, mother b: Ireland
Bridget Dunnicliff, 30, Wife, Keeping House, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland
Josie Dunnicliff, 4, daughter, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ireland
Margaret Dunnicliff, 2, daughter, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ireland
Margaret Quinlan, 24, sister-in-law, Servant, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland
Anthony Quinlan, 67, boarder, Laborer, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland

In 1900, Bridget is a widow living on Loomis Street, Chicago:

Bridget Dunnicliff, head, b: Oct 1854, Ire.
Margaret, daughter, Feb 1878,b: Illinois, factory hand
Edward, son, Sept 1880, Ill., clerk
Agness, daughter, Nov 1883, Ill., factory hand
Jane, daughter, Dec 1884, Ill., at school

Edward A. Dunnicliffe, Jr. married Anna B. Barton on 5 May 1901, in Lake County, Indiana. In the 1910 census, they had a son Edwin, age 7, and she had had another child that had died. Living with them were her sisters Marie, age 9, and Helen Barton, age 8. They were at 1225 So. 49th Street, Cicero, Illinois.

In 1930, Edwin A. Dunnicliffe is living on West Marquette Street, Chicago with his wife Helen J., age 26. They have been married 3 years and have no children living with them.

On Ancestry, there is a pedigree listed for Jane, daughter of Edward and Bridget: she married Charles Edward Heybach and they had a daughter Mary Jane b: 28 Nov 1914. Mary Jane married Joseph Kindell and they had 4 children, 2 daughters and two sons, all still living. Mary Jane died in Ionia, Michigan on 12 March 1990. The oldest daughter married a man named Renn. They had two daughters and a son. Their oldest daughter married a man named Trevino, and they have a daughter. If you wish to contact her, send me an e-mail and I will send you her name and e-mail address.

In 1920, Bridget is living in Chicago with Jane and Charles Heybach, and her grandchildren Charles (6), and Mary (5). Also Charles' father Charles Heybach, Sr.

Debbie

[Russell Woodward]

The 1860 census lists only 1 Wiiliam Dunnicliff, 1 George Dunnicliff and 1 James Dunnicliff, and they are residing together in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:

William Dunnicliff, 30, Brick Layer,Philadelphia
Margaret Dunnicliff, 25, ,Philadelphia
Margaret Dunnicliff, 6, ,Philadelphia
John Dunnicliff, 3, ,Philadelphia
Ellen Dunnicliff, 1, ,Philadelphia
Thomas Dunnicliff, 21, Marine,Philadelphia
George Dunnicliff, 19, (can't read - looks like Prentice Macked?), Philadelphia
James Dunnicliff, 30, (ditto), Philadelphia

In the 1870 census, Margaret (William's wife) was living with her daughters Margaret and Ellen in the home of James McConahey, age 66 (her father?) in Philadelphia.

In 1880 Margaret is living alone with her daughters Margaret and Ella.

Debbie

Dear DebbieAnn

Thank you very much for this information as i have been trying to find the answers to the three females, Margaret, Margaret and Ellen living alone?

I have been able to find a James Dunnicliff who fougt for the confedearacy and was with a Louisiana Regiment (East Baton Rouge) who was killed during the War - i suspect this is the James born in 1830 - possibly brother / relation to William or even a seperate family?

He could also be the James who enlisted in 8th Jan 1858 aged 18 (b 1840) occupation chair painter in Philadelphia - 1st Cav Co E who deserted 14th April 1861 - did they take part in census in Army?
His guardian is listed as a Thomas although brother was scrawled through

The George Dunnicliff enlisted aged 18 also in 1858 - if this is the George born 1841 then he was 17 when he joined 2nd Dragoons Co H- occupation Labourer was discharged 10th March 1863 (5 years service) stationed at Camp Falmouth

Do you have any details of his appearance in the 1870 census

Thank you agian for you help - being in the UK tracing links like these are very difficult

Thanks again

Russell

[Russell Woodward]

Dear Debbie Ann

Apologies for the late thank you but i have been away

Great information - im just struggling to find the link too my family

Williams family is most interesting
I think the James and George were in the Cavalry before the civil war outbreak - do you have any links on Father / mother

Ditto to Edward A Dunnicliff - father English - Mother Irish there names would really help

Many thanks again for your information

Russell Woodward

[jcsmitty1212]

Hope I'm posting this where I'm supposed to, but you all seem to know how to find Civil War participants.

My g-grandfather, William H. Turner, emigrated to the U.S. around 1850 and fought in the Civil War. Only problem is I'm not sure for which side. The family settled in New York City, but may also have lived in Georgia, and I can't find him in the 1860 U.S. census.

What do you do when there are dozens of William Turners listed on these Civil War websites but there is no info to help you find the one you want. His parents were William Henry Turner and Sarah Hopkins, both born in England. His wife was Susan Turner. But since the info provided that I've seen doesn't list relatives, I can't find my guy.

Any suggestions or sites I haven't seen?

Thanks.

jcsmitty1212

[Leander]

Hi there, Smitty.

Let's do first things first. :-)

Do you have a rough idea of William's age when he emmigrated? A date of birth?

And, yes, you are correct -- if we can find where he was living in 1860 we would have a better idea of which Civil War military record might be the one you want. We could probably narrow down which branch and regiment he served in, as most people enlisted as part of a local effort to raise troops. Regiments were very often strongly correlated to the troops' state and county of origin.

Like you, I can't believe how many William Turners there were in the war. Wow!

There are lots of William Turners who immigrated through New York between 1845 and 1855. There are many in the 1860 census, although I couldn't find any English-born William Turners in Georgia in 1860.

Looking for a William Turner and a Susan Turner in the same household in 1860 NY has proven fruitless. Either William was not yet married, or he and his wife had left the state.

Many people relocated after the war, so there is an even better chance that he and his wife could have lived anywhere in the country, post war. As the railroad infrastructure grew, the push westward became easier and more and more people moved west. And, of course, after the war, many northerners went south to make money from the reconstruction effort. It could get tougher to find them from here.

If you have any helpful details to share about William -- something that might differentiate him from other William Turners -- please let us know.

Btw, if we find that William served in a NYS regiment, I can obtain his service record from the state archives when I visit there in a few weeks. If he served with the federal/national troops, then his records would have to be procured from the national archives.