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soundranger
12-08-2010, 10:21 PM
What christian name is it short for, stemming from marriage certificate 1842.

Thanks.

John

Peter Goodey
12-08-2010, 10:32 PM
Jno is short for John. And don't let anyone tell you anything different.

Colin Rowledge
12-08-2010, 10:45 PM
Jno is short for John. And don't let anyone tell you anything different.

I agree with Peter. I have several "John's" shown as JNO on Marriage records and who later were shown as "John" on census returns.

Colin

Jeuel
12-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Jno = John
Thos = Thomas
Jas = James
Chas = Charles

soundranger
12-08-2010, 11:49 PM
Thank you both, Peter and Colin,

Both confirmed what I was thinking. But, just needed confirmation beyond repute!

Thanks, again

John

BeeE586
13-08-2010, 1:22 AM
Sorry to disagree but I have Jonathan's in more than one of my family lines quite regularly abbreviated to Jno. Is it pehaps a regional thing - all the families are either Derbyshire or Yorkshire ? Jno appears for Jonathan in my case in registers, census and once on a will. I do not dispute that Jno can also be used for John where there is evidence.

Eileen

Guy Etchells
13-08-2010, 6:46 AM
Peter is correct Jno is the abbreviation for John. Unfortunately our ancestors often did not know or follow such "rules" for abbreviations.

The wisest course of action is to copy the name exactly as given; if an abbreviation is used use the abbreviation given.
Cheers
Guy

Peter Goodey
13-08-2010, 7:46 AM
I have Jonathan's in more than one of my family lines quite regularly abbreviated to Jno

They could make mistakes back in genealogical times too! I was looking at a record the other day where Geo was written but the man was certainly called James!

Bertie
13-08-2010, 9:20 AM
I have the same issue/problem and conclude that it's a variation of John, but hardly an abbreviation!! I wonder why it was done at all as it doesn't make sense to me!

Kerrywood
13-08-2010, 9:58 AM
I wonder why it was done at all as it doesn't make sense to me!
Jno. is an abbreviation of the Latin Johannes. In medieval Latin this could be written as Jhohannes, abbreviated Jho. It has been suggested that the second letter (h) lost its ascender over the years, and came to be written as n. So the abbreviation became Jno.

As regards Jonathan, it's possible that person was sometimes known familiarly as John, hence the written short-form Jno. appears for people known from other sources to be Jonathan.

Peter Goodey
13-08-2010, 10:00 AM
hardly an abbreviation

Jno for John is a 25% saving! Fully in line with government policy! :biggrin:

BeeE586
13-08-2010, 3:33 PM
Anyone who has studied any form of historical document knows of the errors that have been made, the wrong name, the wrong gender, the variations in spelling - the same word can be spelled three different ways on one line as in some probate documents I have transcribed. I think ordinary common sense should be applied - if Jno or Jho quite obviously refers to a John - so be it. Two of my men appeared as Jonath, Jon, Jno as well as the full Jonathan or Jonothon, but as it was quite clearly the same two men being referred to throughout the register I accepted it as such.

I wish I could be equally certain of Jos - Joseph, Joshua, Josiah, Josias - which, when two or more of them are in the same register and married to wives with the same name. I think Josias and Josiah are the same man but am less sure of the other two. Late 17th/early 18th century - other records which may confirm are thin on the ground.

Problems !!!

Eileen