Ardelheit/Ardelheir CHURCH of Yarmouth

[Pam Downes]

Strange name - I wonder if the vicar meant Adelaide?
The last letter of the name is a little tricky to decide, so a 't' or an 'r' is my best guess.
Image is currently available on the FamilySearch pilot site.

Buried Waxham, Norfolk.

page number 2 entry number 12
Ardelheit/Ardelheir Church, abode Yarmouth, was buried 7 February 1826, aged 73 years.

[pottoka]

It says on my printed version of the pilot site that this person was male, so probably not Adelaide, which is a pity as apparently the German equivalent of Adelaide is Adelheid, which is nearly there. Maybe one of his parents was of Germanic origin, and it was a maiden name given as a first name.

[pottoka]

I think it's a 't' at the end, making it Ardelheit; it is fairly clearly written when you look at the image.

I wonder why the version I used first says that it's a male burial; there's nothing on the page to suggest the sex of the deceased, apart from the first name.

[Pam Downes]

Thanks for that snippet, Pottoka, but unless FamilySearch have a corresponding birth/baptism record which says 'son of' there ain't nowt in the burial record to indicate that Ardel-whatever is a male.
Perhaps when people are transcibing there's a 'tick' box for male or female, and you have to indicate one or the other else the entry gets rejected.
Pam

[daleaway]

It's usually a female name, and has its own Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelheid

More commonly used in the 19th century than it is now.

Don't believe the American websites which claim it is the German version of Adelaide, they're getting their chickens and eggs confused. Adelaide is the English form of the ordinary German word Adelheid meaning "nobility" or "noble".

[pottoka]

It's usually a female name, and has its own Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelheid

More commonly used in the 19th century than it is now.

Don't believe the American websites which claim it is the German version of Adelaide, they're getting their chickens and eggs confused. Adelaide is the English form of the ordinary German word Adelheid meaning "nobility" or "noble".

If you go to the Wikipedia page you quote, it says "See also: Adelaide (disambiguation) is the English form of the name". If you click on that, it says "Adelaide is also the English form of a Germanic given name, from Old High German Adalheidis "nobility".... French: Adélaïde or Adélaide; the modern German form is Adelheid."

[pottoka]

Perhaps when people are transcibing there's a 'tick' box for male or female, and you have to indicate one or the other else the entry gets rejected.
Pam

Good thinking, Pam.

I tried to find a baptism for Ardelheit, or a name which could have become that, but founnd nothing, even going back to 1700. I also found an Ohara Church who was only buried, and an Epsever/Epseber Church who was only baptised. There are many strange and wondrous things in family history.

My favourite was Christmas Church. He was baptised on December 30th, disappointingly, but I expect, then, that he was a real Christmas baby! http://www.smileyslord.com/smileys/3d-christmas-socks-smiley-001.gif (http://www.smileyslord.com)

[birdlip]

If you go to the Wikipedia page you quote, it says "See also: Adelaide (disambiguation) is the English form of the name". If you click on that, it says "Adelaide is also the English form of a Germanic given name, from Old High German Adalheidis "nobility".... French: Adélaïde or Adélaide; the modern German form is Adelheid."

Isn't this where "Heidi" comes from?

[Pam Downes]

Good thinking, Pam.

I tried to find a baptism for Ardelheit, or a name which could have become that, but founnd nothing, even going back to 1700. I also found an Ohara Church who was only buried, and an Epsever/Epseber Church who was only baptised. There are many strange and wondrous things in family history.

My favourite was Christmas Church. He was baptised on December 30th, disappointingly, but I expect, then, that he was a real Christmas baby! http://www.smileyslord.com/smileys/3d-christmas-socks-smiley-001.gif (http://www.smileyslord.com)

Surely that's a misspelling of Hephzibah?

Christmas is famous as a surname in Norfolk, which may account for Christmas Day Godfrey allegedly being born in July (submitted entry on the IGI).

My vote for the best-ever name though has to go to Storm, whose birthplace according to the IGI was 'Atlantic Ocean...at sea'. :biggrin: The surname varies, as does the year, but even though the entries all seem to be submitted there is probably a grain of truth somewhere there.

And quicklysort-of returning to the thread topic........:smile5:
That's interesting about the origin of Heidi, birdlip.
Pam

[pottoka]

Surely that's a misspelling of Hephzibah?
Pam

Wow, you're so clever, Pam! |bowdown| I said it out loud, but I never thought of that |doh| and now it just seems so obvious.

[Pam Downes]

Not clever at all. In a baptism register I trawled through the parents were Robert and Epsby - but the previous vicar had been kind enough to spell the mother's name as Epziba. :smile5: Your version was too near Epsby not to be anything other than another variant.
Pam