The Dawes family Kingswinford Stourbridge

[madgarry]

ime stuck finding info on the following

Thomas Dawes born 1851 ish in Cookley nr Kidderminster,I have him on the 1881 census living with the Homer family, whose daughter Selina he marries,they are living in Kingswinford Stourbridge. I cant find him before this date or who his family is or where they are from,his marriage date and place also cant find,nor his death date. I have him on the 1891 and 1901 census still in High street Kingswinford but on the 1911 census his wife Selina is listed as a widow.

Ime also looking for info on his children,birth marriage,death,military service ect

Joseph Dawes born 1885 Kingswinford Stourbridge
Thomas Dawes born 1889 Kingswinford Stourbridge
Margaret Ann born 1899 kingswinford stourbridge
Jennie born 1902 kingswinford stourbridge

I have no other infop bar what ive listed

[Nicolina]

could this be him i 1851?
HO107/2338/493 Page 26
Court 7, Elden Street, Sheffield
George Dawes 31 b. Sutton Benser, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Dawes 30 b. Panton, Middlesex
Alice Dawes 6 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Thomas Dawes 5 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Dawes 3 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire
George Dawes 1 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire

George's occupation looks like French Polisher

[Nicolina]

1871
RG10/4677/118 Page 18
54, Eldon Street, Sheffield
Geo Robbins Dawes 52
Elizh Dawes 51
Mary Dawes 20
James Dawes 18
Fredk Dawes 16
John Dawes 14
Chas Edwd Dawes 12
Alfred Dawes 11

all children born Sheffield
George's occupation is French Polisher

[madgarry]

could this be him i 1851?
HO107/2338/493 Page 26
Court 7, Elden Street, Sheffield
George Dawes 31 b. Sutton Benser, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Dawes 30 b. Panton, Middlesex
Alice Dawes 6 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Thomas Dawes 5 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Dawes 3 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire
George Dawes 1 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire

George's occupation looks like French Polisher

This is a possible as Thomas was born in Cookley,Wolverley which is near Kidderminster,but if thats the 1851 census and hes five,it throws out our 1901 census which states hes 51

[Nicolina]

Census ages are often out, so if I were you, I'd keep a note of him. There is another one, also a couple of years out date wise, so I would suggest that you get the marriage certificate. This would give you his father's name and so help narrow the search down.

[madgarry]

Census ages are often out, so if I were you, I'd keep a note of him. There is another one, also a couple of years out date wise, so I would suggest that you get the marriage certificate. This would give you his father's name and so help narrow the search down.

We need the date of his marriage to get the cert and where

[madgarry]

I don't think the Selina he married was the one living with the Homer family or if it was she had another name

There's a marriage for a Thomas Dawes at Stourbridge in the Jun qtr 1884 with a Selina Meese on the same page

DAWES Thomas Junqtr 1884 Stourbridge vol. 6c page 233
This marriage date fits in with the birth of his first born

Thanks

[madgarry]

I don't think the Selina he married was the one living with the Homer family or if it was she had another name

There's a marriage for a Thomas Dawes at Stourbridge in the Jun qtr 1884 with a Selina Meese on the same page

DAWES Thomas Junqtr 1884 Stourbridge vol. 6c page 233
This marriage date fits in with the birth of his first born

just re looked at the 1881 census,looks like hes lodging with the Homer family,the Meese family are next door.

[Nicolina]

and that fits with the earlier Censuses

[Nicolina]

Ooops, I'm having a senior moment. Think I need a rest

[geneius]

Hello

Started before T, now going out so forgive if you have this! BUT
1871 RG12 2307 6 5
COTE ( think is now COT ) LANE Kingswinford
HOMER Thomas 62 Dudley LAb Iron works
HOMER Ann 64 Dudley
DAW Thomas 18 grandson Cockley Lab Ironworks

Birth q4 1851 18 408 Kidderminster

[madgarry]

could this be him i 1851?
HO107/2338/493 Page 26
Court 7, Elden Street, Sheffield
George Dawes 31 b. Sutton Benser, Wiltshire
Elizabeth Dawes 30 b. Panton, Middlesex
Alice Dawes 6 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Thomas Dawes 5 b. Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Elizabeth Dawes 3 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire
George Dawes 1 b. Sheffield, Yorkshire

George's occupation looks like French Polisher

Having searched a BDM site ive found

Thomas Dawes born Nov 27th 1851 Cookley Worcestershire parents listed as Richard Dawes and Ann Homer,so its not the ones you have found.

[madgarry]

Do you have them in 1911? It seems Selina's now widowed
15 High Street, Kinswinford

DAWES Selina Widow 47 b. Kingswinford
DAWES Thomas son 22 Furnaceman
DAWES Maggie Daughter 12 School
DAWES Jennie Daughter 9 Slag Works
DAWES Joseph Son 26 Labourer

All children born Kingswinford.
I looked on the original image and she really has written Slag Works next to the 9 year old Jennie's name although this may be a mistake as she wrote same thing for Joseph and then it was crossed through and labourer substituted

RG14 Piece 17510 RD373 SD3 ED9 SN13 Crown copyright TNA

PS Looks like that was the right marriage

yes we have this one,I thought it strange that in 1911 a 9 yr old was doing that and her 12 yr old sister was at school

[madgarry]

Here's his likely birth registration

DAWES Mar qtr 1854 Stourbridge vol 6c page 187

He was born cookley Kidderminster not Stourbridge

[madgarry]

Hello

Started before T, now going out so forgive if you have this! BUT
1871 RG12 2307 6 5
COTE ( think is now COT ) LANE Kingswinford
HOMER Thomas 62 Dudley LAb Iron works
HOMER Ann 64 Dudley
DAW Thomas 18 grandson Cockley Lab Ironworks

Birth q4 1851 18 408 Kidderminster This makes sense as 1881 census he is a lodger in the house of Thomas and Ann Homer

[geneius]

Richard DAWES m Ann HOMER q2 1852 Dudley 6c 37
1891 RG 12 2307 5 4
High Street Kingswinford
DAWES Richard 60 Coal Dealer Woolhope Herefordshire
DAWES ANN 60 Dudley
DAWES Jane 18 dau Kingswinford

Think I have caught up now!

geneius

[madgarry]

Richard DAWES m Ann HOMER q2 1852 Dudley 6c 37
1891 RG 12 2307 5 4
High Street Kingswinford
DAWES Richard 60 Coal Dealer Woolhope Herefordshire
DAWES ANN 60 Dudley
DAWES Jane 18 dau Kingswinford

Think I have caught up now!

geneiuscheers

[madgarry]

Just need info on these now,the children of Thomas Dawes and Selina Meese,want to find out also if the 2 boys served in ww1

Joseph Dawes born 1885 Kingswinford Stourbridge
Thomas Dawes born 1889 Kingswinford Stourbridge
Margaret Ann born 1899 kingswinford stourbridge
Jennie born 1902 kingswinford stourbridge

[geneius]

courtsey & copyright TNA

1901 RG13 2758
15 High Street Kingswinford
Thomas 51 Labourere Bricklayer Cookley
Salina 37
Joseph 16
Thomas 12
Margaret Ann 2
All born Kingswinford

1911 RG14 17510 373 3 9 13
15 High Street
Selina widow 27 6/4/2
*Thomas married 22 furnaceman Ironworks
Maggie 12 Scholar
Jennie 9 ( slag works) is shown on front piece
*Joseph 26 married Labourer....on page Slag Works is written by enumerator

( *no wives shown)

Selina marks X property has 3 rooms

I suspect the info has been completed by the enumerator as the style of writing is similar to his where he /she signs the sheet!

Nice to revisit an area I grew up in ! Happy days loadsa freedom!

[geneius]

Had a look for WW1 info, cannot readily identify. there are 2 researchers on thsi well known site A.......y who appear to be desc of Joseph Dawes

geneius

[madgarry]

Had a look for WW1 info, cannot readily identify. there are 2 researchers on thsi well known site A.......y who appear to be desc of Joseph Dawes

geneius can you give me more info on this,because if they are related to Joseph Dawes then they are related to me and I dont know who they are