Daniel Brown of Chenies born 1784

[Bettyanne]

Why oh Why can I not find a death certificate for this man, he must have died. I have searched and searched and bought several death certificates but have not found him yet.Surely there cannot be another way of spelling his name. There were two Brown families in Chenies at the time- can trace the other one but not him.

[Sue Mackay]

Hi Bettyanne. I have moved this thread from the Introduce Yourself forum (which is for precisely that and nothing else) to the BMD forum.

[Sue Mackay]

How do you know he died in 1861?

[Jan1954]

Chenies was in the Amersham registration district, but right on the border of Buckinghamshire. Have you checked the Watford and Uxbridge districts as well?

[Mutley]

He is alive in the 1861 Census in April as living in the Alms Houses.
77 years old and an Almsman formerly an Inn Keeper born 1784, Chenies, Bucks.
He is also living there in 1851 and 1841. Sadly no family are with him on any of the census but I would have thought living there at least 20 years would mean whoever registered his death would have got it right.

The nearest is Daniel Dearing Brown in Dec 1861 at Watford. No ages are given at death until 1866. Does Dearing ring a bell?
If not, could he have gone to visit one of his children and died elsewhere?

Unfortunately, he is not the only Daniel Brown in the area, I can see the death of the one born 1796 but not yours. Sorry :(

[Mutley]

According to Genuki
"Anne Countess of Warwick, founded an alms-house at Cheyneys, in 1605, and endowed it with 50 l. per annum, for the support of ten poor persons, six of whom are to be of Cheyneys, two of Northall, and two of Wotton-Under-edge, in Gloucestershire."

Genuki (http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/Chenies/index.html) says the burial records for St Michael, Chenies have been deposited in the Buckinghamshire Record Office in Aylesbury, might be worth trying them.

[Bettyanne]

I do not know when Daniel died. As he was shown on the 1861 census I searched after that date until 1871, rare chance of him living until nearly 90. Have tried to trace his family but can not see him living with them at census. I know he was a widow on the census on 1841 and onwards. The girls all seem to have left the district. Mother must have died before 1841. Only son Daniel born 1823 stayed behind and he is not living with them. I checked Deaths index for a Daniel Brown all surrounding areas. Thought I had got it last time 1864 (male Brown Amersham) but when I got the certificate it was Mary Brown. I do know his sister Elizabeth married a Beeson at Chenies and can follow her through. OK i will try Chenies burial records but why no death registered ?Must try harder! No Dearing does not appear in anything I have from Bucks FHS

[Sue Mackay]

I do not know when Daniel died. As he was shown on the 1861 census I searched after that date until 1871, rare chance of him living until nearly 90.

I have changed the title of the thread as having 1784-1861 makes it seem as if those are his known dates.

[Mutley]

Deaths are not always registered where you expect them to be.
Just as an example, last year a friend died, his daughter tried to register him locally but one office was closed for refurbishment and the next was closed because of staff holidays, the next had a list as long as your arm and in order to get a funeral arranged before Christmas his death was registered miles away in a different county.

Where was the local hospital? Could he have been taken there and died and is it outside the county?
Are there any records of the persons living in those Alms Houses. When did he vacate his occupancy?
Might there be an obituary notice in the local newspaper?

[Podge]

I have found a Daniel Brown who died in 1879, registered in Amersham District (3A/251). Amersham at that time would have included those deaths that took place in the Chenies. His age at death was given as 84 years, whereas if your D.O.B of 1784 is correct it should have made him 95 years...if this is him. However we do know that sometimes people for various reasons forget how old they are, or if they died in an almshouse it is possible that when Daniel entered them he 'manipulated' his age - if it was a qualifying factor. Finally, it may be that when he died no one was quite sure of his age and this was a guestimate!

[Bettyanne]

hello Podge. i Ilready have this death certificate. death was witnessed by a son James. not ours thanks anyway. the search goes on. Regards Bettyanne