Haines/Hains

[JayD]

Well, thanks to the forums I now know that my Great-Grandfather (George Henry Haines) had one brother and two sisters. What I am hoping to find is what became of them. This is what I know:

Susannah Tabitha Hains, born in Tunstead, October 7, 1876. She married James Etheridge at St. Mary’s in Wroxham on September 19, 1900 and had a son, James George Etheridge, who was baptised in 1901.

William Richard Hains, born in Wroxham on April 8, 1880.

Maria Ellen Hains, born in Wroxham on May 9, 1883.

I cannot find anything after the 1901 census. Any help would be appreciated.

[Geoffers]

I now know that my Great-Grandfather (George Henry Haines) had one brother and two sisters. What I am hoping to find is what became of them. I cannot find anything after the 1901 census. Any help would be appreciated.
There are several routes you could follow to begin with, some more complicated than others:

Did any of them fight in WW1? Try TNA's 'Documents Online' - search the medal cards index:
http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Did any of those who fought in WW1, die? Try the Commonwealth War Graves Commission:
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx

Archive CD Books sell many directories which may contain reference to your family, either start with one around 1910-20-ish to see if the head of family is recorded - or perhaps jump ahead to 1933 which is extensive in coverage.

The more complicated method is to try and tarce the family forward in time using the index to wills (good place to start, extract all HAIN(E)S entries that you find for Norfolk). Also then trace them using certificates found through references in the GRO index.

Geoffers

[JayD]

William Richard Haines married Laura Cushion - Daughter of James Cushion - in 1902 in the Parish of Tasburgh. Laura was also present for Susanna's marriage. William was living in Wroxham when his Mother, Harriet died in 1924. I found a Richard James Haines born in the 1st quarter on 1904 in St. Faiths. George Henry Haines and his wife Sophia were living at 229 King street in Norwich when their daughter Florence Sophia was born. On a very slim chance I have a William Richard Haines that died December 31 1945 at 12 Mount Pleasant Square, Ebbw Vale. The death was witnessed by J.P. Haines, his son.

If anyone has anything to help the search or rule out the 1945 death of William Richard, please let me know. I think MasterCard is going to move to a bigger building thanks to what I have spent in the last few months. |laugh1|

[JayD]

Well, the William Haines I found is not the one I was looking for, but I did find Maria Ellen’s marriage on August 2, 1905. She went by Ellen Maria Haines and married Dennis Cushion, son of James Cushion. The marriage was witnessed by Jessie Cushion and George Haines.

[Geoffers]

Well, the William Haines I found is not the one I was looking for......
Hello J
I saw the photo of the headstone, which is a nice memorial; thanks for posting that on the forums.

I'm sorry to seem dense, but regarding your above message, what is it that you have found that is wrong, what is it that you want to find? Is this relating to the William born in Wroxham in 1880?

Geoffers

[JayD]

My ultimate goal is to find living descendants of George Henry’s siblings. Until I posted here and you connected me with Chris Haines, the family thought George was an orphan because that is what he told them. I have found the grandson of George Henry’s cousin Fred Coleman Anguish living in New York, but nothing on the Haines siblings. More people join the forums each day and someday, someone will recognize one of the names I have listed. Until then I just post everything I find.

[JayD]

The William Haines that died in Ebbw Vale was signed by his son J.P. Haines. I found a John Pryse S Haines born in the 2nd quarter of 1905 in the district of Hay, Vol. 11b, and page 117. There is a Hay-on-Wye (I had to get a map) that is very close to Ebbw Vale. So I have to say it is not the Willaim Richard Haines born in 1880 in Wroxham. All is not lost. I have found and am waiting for William R - 1st quarter 1968, Norwich o, 4b, 1113. The age was 87.
I am glad you liked the stone.

[JayD]

I am still not sure on the new death certificate I have but I can add that:


November 21, 1903, Richard James Haines (son of William Richard and Laura nee Cushion) was born in Wroxham.


January 5, 1906, Gladys Laura Haines (daughter of William Richard and Laura nee Cushion) was born in Wroxham.

[JayD]

I guess I should have posted the death certificate as well. Sorry.
William Richard Haines died January 6th, 1968 in Wroxham at the age of 87. The death was witnessed by Williams’s grandson.

[JayD]

Using the grandson of William Richard, I went to an on-line directory and found someone of the same name and address. I sent him a letter and today received an email from Richard James’s grandson.

I started looking into my great grandfathers past in October and it wasn’t until I posted here in March that I made any progress. Thanks to what I have learnt here I have a distant cousin in Kent, another in New York and more on the way. More importantly we know that my great grandfather had a family and nothing compares to that.

I thank you all

[Geoffers]

I guess I should have posted the death certificate as well. Sorry.
William Richard Haines died January 6th, 1968 in Wroxham at the age of 87.Thanks for letting us know the good news of your continued success. A passing thought, have you tried to find a will for the above W.R.Haines to see if other relatives and addresses are mentioned?

Geoffers

[JayD]

Geoffers I must apologize. I was going through some old posts and realized that I had not replied to you here or thanked you for your suggestions on my cemetery post. That was rather rude of me. Sorry. :o

I did not have any luck finding wills for any of the Haines that I know about.

[Geoffers]

Hello J
Worry not, there's an awful lot of interesting stuff to read on these forums, without having to concern yourself with my ramblings. It's nice to read that you're having some success.

Best wishes
Geoffers

[JayD]

December was a very productive month.

My newly found Norfolk cousins used some very creative thinking to find and contact the descendants of Maria Ellen. It was just before Christmas so they plan to get in touch after the holidays.

Myself, I patiently|laugh1| waited for a reply from a letter I wrote to the descendant of Susannah Tabitha. Last week I received the letter I was hoping for. I will be writing back to let them know of the others in the family.

So, I guess that is it. My Great Grandparents have a new marker on their grave, the family of the four children of Harriet Haines have all been found and we all wish to stay in touch. That is what I was hoping for when I started. I guess you could call it reverse genealogy, I started with my Great Grandfather and worked my way to the present. Just working on proving or disproving some family stories at the moment.

Again I thank you all who have helped me reach my goal, if it was not for you I would still be looking for an orphan who lived in a castle. If nothing else, family stories are entertaining.

Jay