Deaths at sea

[bjelkier]

I appologise if this is the wrong forum, not sure where to put it.

I have found an entry in the GRO Marine deaths indices [ 1846-1855] which looks as though it could be for someone I'm looking for but there is only the name and page number [which is very unclear]. Does anyone know how I can get more information about this entry & obtaining certs etc ?

Bjelkier

[Peter Goodey]

Does anyone know how I can get more information about this entry & obtaining certs etc ?

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Read the FAQ if unclear. Choose Death Certificate (Overseas events)

[bjelkier]

Thanks for that Peter.Unfortunately there is no 'year of death' in the index so ordering the cert on line is probably not possible - leastways the FAQs etc don't help with that.

Bjelkier

[Kerrywood]

Unfortunately there is no 'year of death' in the index so ordering the cert on line is probably not possible - leastways the FAQs etc don't help with that.
from FAQs for Overseas Events:

Q9. What happens if I don't know the year of registration of an overseas birth, marriage or death?
Don't worry, insert the year that the event may have taken place, more than one year will be searched.

In this case I'd enter any year between 1846 and 1855, and they should be able to find it for you.

[notanotherminer]

I don't know if this is helpful but the National Archives hold "Registers of Accounts of Wages and Effects of Deceased Seamen &c., received and disposed of"
My gt.gt.grandfather John Race drowned at sea while serving as 3rd Engineer aboard the SS Cadiz in 1879.
I had to visit Kew in person but I was able to obtain a photocopy of the original page of the register with his details.
The entry is quite detailed. It lists as follows:
Port received from
Name and official number of ship
Name of deceased seaman
Age
Rating (ie rank etc)
Date of death
Place (ie at sea, in port
amount to be accounted for (in John's case this was £1.8.4d)
Date accounted for
Remarks
The actual register is A2 size and each page contains about 15 entries.
The reference on my document is BT/53/19.
I've had it more than 10 years ago now but if I remember correctly BT53 is the name of the record books themselves and BT stands either for Board of Trade or Board of Transport. I'm afraid I can't remember which.
These records may well be digitised by now so it's worth checking if you can order online but given the sheer size of the records I don't know how it might work.

[notanotherminer]

Postscript to last post.
My apologies. I've just looked again at the record and it's reference is BT153

[bjelkier]

I have just had another try at ordering the cert. unfortunately you have to give DOB or age at death and I have no idea of either! I only know that he married in 1838 and his wife was shown as a widow in 1851, as it is her family I am researching I was just trying to fill in some gaps as haven't been able to find a death record for him anywhere else.

[Kerrywood]

I have just had another try at ordering the cert. unfortunately you have to give DOB or age at death and I have no idea of either!
If you're being asked for this, it means you've missed out a step in the ordering process.

Go back to the Certificate Choice page.

You are asked

For all events
Is the General Register Office Index known?

Ensure that you've checked YES (the default is NO).

Then the order should proceed properly. Any better?

[bjelkier]

Thankyou very much ....sorry to be such a pain! Fingers crossed it is ok.
Bjelkier

[Peter Goodey]

Otherwise phone (same price from Tuesday!)