2 death certs - what did they die of?

[kellysmith1976]

Hi I have 2 death certs, And i cant make out the writing on one, and i dont know what the other one is?
Here they are
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn171/kellysmith_2008/001.jpg

and the second:

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn171/kellysmith_2008/002-1.jpg

[Peter Goodey]

Is there a doctor in the house?

I'll kick off and wait to be put right...

1.

Mitral regurgitation 1 year(?)
Congestion of lungs 1? months
Dunno

2.

Syphilitic ossium (I think)
Necrosis
Exhaustion

[JennyP]

The second on looks to me like Syphiltic ossium necrosis and Exhaustion. Agoogle search on the firts three words should explain what it is.

The first one is more difficult but looks like:
"illegible" regurgitation 1 year
Coughing of lungs 15 months --- Peter is right this actually says congestion not coughing
"illegible" 1 month

[ET in the USA]

My guesses are:
Number 1 - Cerebral Regurgitation -1 year; Congestion of Lungs 1 ½ months; Anasarca 1 month

Number 2 - Syphilitic ossium; Necrosis; Exhaustion


Search for Archaic Medical terms for defenitions or try antiquusmorbus.com

[Peter Goodey]

Anasarca 1 month

Anasarca! That's the word we needed! Well done.

Anasarca is oedema associated with congestive heart failure (see mitral regurgitation etc)

[Peter Goodey]

Message for kellysmith

You live in Kent, so it's worth making full use of the online information services provided by your public library service -

http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/libraries/online_library_services/online_reference_library.aspx

These resources include several medical reference books.

If you live in Medway, the corresponding URL is -
http://www.medway.gov.uk/index/leisure/libraries/52757.htm

Worth bookmarking, I think

[Peter Goodey]

Only nudging the thread because I think kellysmith may not have spotted the replies to her question.

[kellysmith1976]

Only nudging the thread because I think kellysmith may not have spotted the replies to her question.

Thanks for the bump Peter... Your right i didnt, The forum usually emails me when i have had a reply, It did when you wrote that!.. Will have to check me spam settings!..
Thanks also pete for the websites, I couldnt go on the library one, it wouldnt accept my number.. and i do use CityArk... Thank you again..

Thank you for the answers!.. I have had a look on google and whilst i understand now the first one about heart.. But i dont understand the syphilis one.. or am i reading it wrong.. I thought syphillis was either sexually transmitted, or you were born with it.. I tried googling it, but some of the sites i got confused me all the more!..

[JohnN]

I don't understand the confusion about syphillis, Kelly.
The certificate seems to indicate that Thomas suffered with syphillis which showed up by way of sores in or around the mouth.
He would probably have contracted the disease many years earlier.
Very nasty, but probably not all that unusual in the days before penicillin.

[Peter Goodey]

I took it to mean syphilis of the bones.